Re: [Elecraft] [K1] VFO Drift Problem

2011-05-05 Thread Jessie Oberreuter
IIRC there are two cascaded voltage regulators before the VFO which may also be good candidates for improvement. Mine's been more drifty since I blew the first one; I probably should have replaced the second one at the same time. On Wed, 4 May 2011, Matt Scholz wrote: Hi - I am

Re: [Elecraft] [K1] VFO Drift Problem

2011-05-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Matt, I would first suspect the stability of the voltage regulators. That VFO is tuned with a varactor, if the voltage changes, the frequency will change. If that does not settle it down, I would wind L1 on a new core on the suspicion that the present one is more temperature sensitive than

Re: [Elecraft] [K1] VFO Drift Problem

2011-05-05 Thread Matt Scholz
Thanks Don. So here's another question. My first step was to remove C2, which effectively removes the varactor (D3) from the equation. I was still observing an excessive amount of drift. Doesn't this rule out the voltage regulators as the cause of this problem? 73, -Matt W6ZBA On 5/5/11 7:19

Re: [Elecraft] [K1] VFO Drift Problem

2011-05-05 Thread Michael Babineau
Very interesting problem Matt. The VFO in my K1 is stable once it has warmed up for about 5 minutes, as long as the rig isn't out in the sun. I have observed some significant drifting due to physical warming while operating portable so I now know to keep it shaded. Sometimes I wish for a K1.5

Re: [Elecraft] [K1] VFO Drift Problem

2011-05-05 Thread David Gilbert
I'd also suspect the voltage regulator first, but another possibility is the varactor itself. Many years ago in another universe I was the product engineer for tuning diodes at a large U.S. semiconductor manufacturer. Varactors are simply reversed bias diodes with a junction profile optimized

Re: [Elecraft] [K1] VFO Drift Problem

2011-05-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Matt, That takes only one of the varactors out of the circuit. You could remove both C2 and C7 and that would remove both varactors from the circuit. But that still does not eliminate the supply voltage because Q8 will still change in response to a change in the 6 volt regulator output.

Re: [Elecraft] [K1] VFO Drift Problem

2011-05-05 Thread Matt Scholz
Don, Thank you for the very detailed response/analysis - that was helpful. I definitely will heed your advice and replace one component at a time. 73, -Matt W6ZBA On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Matt, That takes only one of the varactors out of the

[Elecraft] [K1] VFO Drift Problem

2011-05-04 Thread Matt Scholz
Hi - I am trying to reduce my K1's VFO drift to an acceptable level. The VFO frequency drifts up at a rate of about 30Hz/minute (after a 5 minute warm up). Even after one hour, the drift is still about 15Hz/minute. This is too much, obviously. I have been trouble shooting this with the help of