: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
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If you want an extended example of the PC implementation of
SDR, take a
look at LP
While I agree with almost all of this polemic, I disagree totally with
the Moral of the story videre licet if one is foolish enough to let a
functional (and therefore invaluable) collection of software be at the
mercy of the cloud (any cloud!) by not having a local bit image backup
at hand,
My apologies, I read the digest and was not aware that the
discussion subject was closed. Sorry for the bandwidth.
-lu-w4lt-
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That's rather a stretch. It's the equivalent of saying that updating
your K3 firmware to the latest approved release in the middle of a
contest will hurt your score. It's the timing of the action that
kills, not the action itself.
The moral to that anecdote isn't the one you think it is.
Did anyone see or turn knobs on the proposed FTDX-3000?
Did Kenwood have the rumored new
Hf rig?
Thanks
Mike R
Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!
Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF Echolink mobile
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is $3900 and 6700 around $7k
Dave
wo2x
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From: Mike Rodgers
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:25 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
Did anyone see or turn knobs on the proposed FTDX-3000?
Did Kenwood have the rumored new
Hf rig
and not
operational at Dayton. Price on 6500 is $3900 and 6700 around $7k
Dave
wo2x
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From: Mike Rodgers
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:25 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
Did anyone see or turn knobs on the proposed FTDX-3000
I saw the Kenwood TS-990. It is a big, big radio, with over 140 buttons
and knobs, but it looks a bit like a piece of A/V equipment. It'd be
interesting to see exactly how much empty space is inside. I passed by
the Yaesu booth on the way to the Elecraft booth and saw the FT-3000.
Nice looking
Thanks Jim,
Guess I missed it.
Good to see new HF radios coming out. Competition is good for the consumer!
Dave
wo2x
-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:44 AM
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Yaesu did have an FT
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Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
Did anyone see or turn knobs on the proposed FTDX-3000?
Did Kenwood have the rumored new
Hf rig?
Thanks
Mike R
Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!
Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF Echolink mobile
, and not necessarily a Flex lover, but in the interest of
balance.
73
Terry, WB4JFI
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From: Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:03 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
Flex is releasing the new 6500 and 6700 radios
lover, and not necessarily a Flex lover, but in the interest of
balance.
73
Terry, WB4JFI
-Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:03 PM
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Flex is releasing the new 6500
It seems like there are some low-end/mobile rigs that could stand to be
updated a little.but no joy there.
73,
Dick - KA5KKT
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Software annual fee??? Does this mean the radio will cease to operate
unless you continue to update the software?
Sure hope this idea will not spread!
Bill W2BLC
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IN GOD I TRUST (but, NOT a single politician)
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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:30 PM, wb4...@knology.net wrote:
... I'm not sure that a honking computer is required...
===
Naw, the client that displays the pan and controls the radio appears to be
not too different from, say, Ham Radio Deluxe. Of course you can run lots
of pans at once and
: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:57 PM
To: wb4...@knology.net ; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
Given the amount of processing done inside the 6000 series, except
for requiring gig-e, I'm not sure that a honking computer is
required.
For maximum use, one
The prices I find on the Flex web site are $5999 and $6999.
Peter W0LLN
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:07 PM, wb4...@knology.net wrote:
And, once again, go to the Flex web site on-line store. Don't believe me.
In black and white (not a tee shirt), it says the 6500 is $3,999 as a
pre-order,
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
The prices I find on the Flex web site are $5999 and $6999.
Peter W0LLN
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:07 PM, wb4...@knology.net wrote:
And, once again, go to the Flex web site on-line store. Don't believe me.
In black and white (not a tee shirt
else?
Terry, WB4JFI
-Original Message- From: Peter Wollan
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:31 PM
To: wb4...@knology.net
Cc: Joe Subich, W4TV ; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
The prices I find on the Flex web site are $5999 and $6999.
Peter W0LLN
*Bill,
You think that's a bad idea?
In VK look what happens!
ACMA Amateur ANNUAL licence fee: $65.00
Flex annual lic fee: $200.00
Hmmm...To be a licenced Ham in VK with a Flex radio will cost you $265.00
each and every year.
For everything else there's
Terry,
Your second assumption brings up a valid point, but not the intended
one. Yes, a Mac Mini probably won't work well.
My point there was the lack of multiple monitor support - Apple is a
closed system and the Mac Mini has only one video output.
Not the addition of both signals, as
*Peter,
Flex 5000 introductory price $3999.00
Flex 6700 introductory price $5999.00
Then there is another 6700 price of $6999.00
Confusing is the best I can say...:-(
Gary
*
On 22 May 2012 05:31, Peter Wollan peter.wol...@gmail.com wrote:
The prices I find on the Flex web site are $5999 and
] Dayton- new hf rigs?
The prices I find on the Flex web site are $5999 and $6999.
Peter W0LLN
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:07 PM, wb4...@knology.net wrote:
And, once again, go to the Flex web site on-line store. Don't believe
me.
In black and white (not a tee shirt), it says the 6500
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:31 PM
To: wb4...@knology.net
Cc: Joe Subich, W4TV ; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
The prices I find on the Flex web site are $5999 and $6999.
Peter W0LLN
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:07 PM, wb4
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Gregory
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:13 PM
To: Bill
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
*Bill,
You think that's a bad idea?
In VK look what happens!
ACMA Amateur ANNUAL licence fee: $65.00
Flex annual lic fee
Actually you can hook up two monitors to a current mini and in fact if you use
the Thunderbolt port you can hook up at least three!
Rick
K6LE
On 5/21/2012, at 2:23 , Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
Terry,
Your second assumption brings up a valid point, but not the intended
one.
Back in '98 we hooked a very high end Mac to 9 monitors just to see if
we could do it. Worked great and the customer was quite pleased. Those
$10,000 Macs were fine machines.
Kevin. KD5ONS
On 5/21/2012 3:07 PM, Rick Prather wrote:
Actually you can hook up two monitors to a current
The $1,000 Macs are fine machines, too.
73,
Scott, N9AA
On 5/21/12 6:10 PM, kevinr wrote:
Back in '98 we hooked a very high end Mac to 9 monitors just to see if
we could do it. Worked great and the customer was quite pleased. Those
$10,000 Macs were fine machines.
Kevin. KD5ONS
So if the new Flex doesn't require a top of the line PC to operate and already
has much of the processing power inside, then I would say it's no longer a
software defined transceiver in the traditional sense as we've known it (as the
3000/5000), and perhaps should be called a software assisted
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
*Peter,
Flex 5000 introductory price $3999.00
Flex 6700 introductory price $5999.00
Then there is another 6700 price of $6999.00
Confusing is the best I can say...:-(
Gary
*
On 22 May 2012 05:31, Peter Wollan peter.wol
Joe, without getting into a 'my OS is better than yours' discussion, you will
have to tell my Mac Mini that it only has one video output. Since last year,
the Mac Mini has a standard HDMI port, as well as a ThunderBolt port (developed
by Intel) where you can use an inexpensive adaptor to
There is no charge from Flex for software with the original purchase.
The $199 per year covers software upgrades AND technical support.
Somewhat the same approach as the new owners of Ham Radio Deluxe, and
the same program Carl Moreschi, N4PY, has been running for many years
now with his
Sebastian,
Your as we have known it phrase is telling - I think that attitude is
prevalent among hams, but military and other users of SDR would not agree.
An SDR can be implemented by means of software in a personal computer
*OR* embedded computing device (see
Since last year, the Mac Mini has a ...
Since last year is the operative phrase ... my Mic Minis (about three
years old) do not have a second video output and no option to add any.
However, this isn't specifically about the Mac Mini. I could named any
of several netbook and/or small Windows
Of course, this new direction by Flex in software begs the question of
whether
they will continue to support and improve the existing PowerSDR software.
I'd hate to think that my Flex-1500 that's less than a year old will
never change
for the better.
Of course, that question may have been asked
Yes the lower price is for the 6500 transceiver (not receiver)
;
FLEX-6500 Limited Edition Pre-Order Deposit Only - Total Introductory Price:
$3999 (deposit $1200)
The FLEX-6500™ Signature Series transceiver is based on a new hardware
architecture and SmartSDR software platform. This hardware
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
.An SDR can be implemented by means of software in a personal computer
*OR* embedded computing device
other SDRs are moving toward the embedded processor approach
because it does away with obsolescence due to
Software defined does not mean PC-based. The K3 and KX3 are
absolutely software defined radios.
73,
Lyle KK7P
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If you want an extended example of the PC implementation of SDR, take a
look at LP-PAN. That is an SDR converter (for receive only) to take
the IF of a receiver and convert it to I/Q signals which can be further
processed in a panadapter display on a personal computer.
One of the things Larry
And in case anyone was wondering, there will never, ever, be an annual
Elecraft tech-support charge.
Wayne
Lyle Johnson wrote:
Software defined does not mean PC-based. The K3 and KX3 are
absolutely software defined radios.
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On 5/21/2012 8:12 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
And in case anyone was wondering, there will never, ever, be an annual
Elecraft tech-support charge.
That is good news ... and an outstanding reason to eschew the new Flex
offerings. However, I am looking forward to the next high performance
Difficult to see... Always in motion, is the future.
-Yoda
That is good news ... and an outstanding reason to eschew the new Flex
offerings. However, I am looking forward to the next high performance
offering from Elecraft.
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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
And in case anyone was wondering, there will never, ever, be an annual
Elecraft tech-support charge.
...just one of many favorable outgrowths of having thought through very
carefully the right combination of
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
looking forward to the next high performance offering from
Elecraft.
You can take your K3 to the next level just by putting rev 4.51
firmware on it.
No charge.
Wayne
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:49 PM
To: Joe Subich, W4TV
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
looking forward to the next
On 5/21/2012 7:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
looking forward to the next high performance offering from
Elecraft.
You can take your K3 to the next level just by putting rev 4.51
firmware on it.
No charge.
I usually hold off on the beta's, I'm really not that
OK, talked me into it also. How do you point the software to the beta
sight?
On May 21, 2012 10:00 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:
On 5/21/2012 7:48 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
looking forward to the next high performance offering from
Elecraft.
You
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Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
looking forward to the next high performance offering from
Elecraft.
You can take your K3 to the next level just by putting rev 4.51
firmware on it.
No charge.
Wayne
Thats good
let me know if you need a test bed to try it :)
Happy to be a beta tester!
Cheers
Simon
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To: gm4...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Dayton- new hf rigs?
Date: Mon
With an ability to plug directly (wirelessly?) into the Internet (some
security required) for control, audio and IF/P3 output.
Others attempt it, only Elecraft can do it right.
Then add smartphone/pad apps, for digital modes as well as voice, a complete
remote station in one box, just add
Guys, we are -way- exceeding the posting volume limit for a single topic -
which is certainly overloading many readers. Let's wind this topic down at this
time.
73,
Eric
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