Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-19 Thread Mike Morrow
Curt wrote: I thought the K1 was the commercial version of the Sierra. The...er...Sierra is the commercial version of the Sierra. :-) It's still sold by Wilderness Radio. The Sierra is rather different from the K1. Not least difference being the four PIC controllers found in the

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-19 Thread Rick Dettinger
Maybe not. The Sierra has been shown on the Wilderness Radio website as out of stock for quite a while now. Too bad. It was a very versatile kit. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: The...er...Sierra is the commercial version of the Sierra. :-)

[Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-18 Thread Curt
I thought the K1 was the commercial version of the Sierra. Didn't the Sierra predate Elecraft? BTW, the K1 is about the neatest QRP radio I own, even above my K2. I've built boards for every band 80M-10M, especially enjoy working from the patio @ 1W into an EFHW on 20M. It's my go to rig

[Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-17 Thread r j
Hi. I have noticed that the K1 and Sierra rcvrs are very similar (as 602 based designs). The main difference is imo that the Sierra has a MC1350 IF amp (as has the K2 btw) followed by an LM386, but the K1 seems to do all amplification after XFIL on AF frequencies using LM386+LM380. Could/have

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-17 Thread WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft
Since you consider yourself as an RF tinkerer, it sounds like an interesting experiment. Since the technology in the K1 predates my interest in Elecraft, probably the up to date inclusions in the Sierra were not available when the K1 was designed 20 years or so ago. The K3 design is not

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-17 Thread r j
... probably the up to date inclusions in the Sierra were not available when the K1 was designed 20 years or so ago... The Sierra predates the K1. The NE602 mixer and MC1350 IF amp was in common use long before the Sierra was designed and even longer before Elecraft was formed. Elecraft used

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread Mike Morrow
...were not available when the K1 was designed 20 years or so ago. That's a pretty fanciful date to just pick out of thin air! :-) There wasn't anything that was Elecraft 20 years ago. The K1 was shown first at Dayton 2000, after which many of us ordered one. The first deliveries to the mass

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
More history - Elecraft was formally created July of 1998. (We began working on the K2 design well before that.) We shipped the first 100 K2 Field Test Units January and Feb. of 1999. We took orders for production K2 kits at Dayton in May of 1999. We followed that with the K1, then the KX1,

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread r j
Well ... Thanks for the history. One can also look at Elecraft's website http://www.elecraft.com/about_elecraft.htm But my question remains: Why did the (very early) Sierra and the (first Elecraft product) K2 have IF amp (MC1350 - and of course the standard AF amp LM386), but the K1 was

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Roy, I think one of the reasons for the change from the MC1350 to the NE612 followed by the LM386 was due to the fact that when the K1 was designed, the MC1350 in its DIP format was not to be used for current designs. Yes, the MC1350 is still available in SMD format, and Elecraft has

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread r j
Yep - the K2 uses LM380, but the Sierra uses only an LM386 as headphone amp. My ill formulated sentence. But it doesn't matter - its all AF dBs. My point is that the Sierra and the K2 uses an IF amp MC1350 before the product detector 602 (612, NE, SA ...), and gets a 'proper' AGC. The K2 is of

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
Hmm .. so where is the KX2, Eric? :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 10/17/14, 6:34 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: More history - Elecraft was formally created July of 1998. (We began working on the K2 design well before that.) We shipped the first 100 K2 Field Test Units January and Feb. of