Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-25 Thread Keith Trinity WE6R
Anyone that posted in this thread after Eric's post, that were not discussing the TS-980 vs K4D, were inappropriate. (except mine of course) I stepped in only because folks kept bickering and I am list Manager. Contemplate it this way; What if every 7,000 plus members jumped in with their

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-25 Thread G4GNX
Well said Mark and thanks for doing so. I also monitor several Elecraft groups. Because, like you, I have other Elecraft equipment. One thing I would ask of any new subscribers to our K4 group is that you supply both your name and callsign. This saves us a lot of problems trying to verify

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-24 Thread Mark Musick
To: j...@kk9a.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance? I would very much like to read a comparison from someone who has had the opportunity to run both rigs. 73, John WA1EAZ > On Oct 24, 2023, at 3:52 PM, wrote: > > I do not see where

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-24 Thread John Stengrevics
re's product to an Elecraft one. I do not > think anyone really answered WB5THT's question. > > John KK9A > > > > [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance? > Keith Trinity WE6R wrote: > > Guys GUYS! ... guess where I learned this :) > Eric asked that everyone stop posti

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-24 Thread john
I do not see where Eric said to close this thread. He said it is perfectly OK comparing another manufacture's product to an Elecraft one. I do not think anyone really answered WB5THT's question. John KK9A [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance? Keith Trinity WE6R wrote: Guys GUYS! ... guess

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-24 Thread John Canfield
age: 18 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:27:03 -0500 From: Lou Laderman To: Andrew Moore Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance? Message-ID: <3810016e-d4cc-446a-a764-1790a6e4f...@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This back and forth isn

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-24 Thread Keith Trinity WE6R
Guys GUYS! ... guess where I learned this :) Eric asked that everyone stop posting about this and CLOSED the thread Monday! Please read his post below. If you need to comment, send me a private email as several folks have done. Keith WE6R, list manager and K3/K4 Tech (I have radios to

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Wes
He's an Elecraft fanboy with an Expert 1K-FA amplifier in his shack. On 10/23/2023 11:12 AM, David Gilbert wrote: How very boorish of you.  The original post (read it below) specifically asked for comparison information, and Wes merely answered. You are the consummate Elecraft fanboy here

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Clay Autery
Almost never, unless it is a new product that was not available at the time of original purchase. I do my research, analysis, comparison shopping, etc. /before/ I buy.  Saves a lot of mistakes and regrets.  For instance, I spent about 6 months researching my purchase of an ALL BANDS

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Clay Autery
Pretty sure I was not talking to you. And yes, I wrote that.  What's your point, stud? You ever heard the rule in this group about tailing your post? Yeah, cut off all the extra footers and any of the conversation not required to continue your discussion. And there is another rule that

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Jim Brown
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Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Linda M
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Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt
...@wjschmidt.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Clay Autery Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 1:00 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance? LMAO! Yes, because anecdotal story-telling on this list by various un

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Lou Laderman via Elecraft
This back and forth isn’t helpful folks. Sometimes opinions about another’s post are better held privately than to perpetuated in an endless email chain of ill-will. 73, Lou W0FK Lou Laderman Sent from my mobile device On Oct 23, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Moore wrote: Lashing out is an

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Eric Swartz
Folks - It is perfectly OK to have -civil- discussions here comparing our rigs to other rigs (within a reasonable length.) . And it's ok to post Elecraft products for sale here. It is NOT OK to be rude or get personal and criticize other's postings. if you have a complaint about a posting email

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Lee Hiers
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 2:02 PM Clay Autery wrote: > This is the Elecraft manufacturer's list. It is here to discuss > ELECRAFT gear. Ask Wayne or Eric. It belongs to THEM. > Wow...I missed the part where they named you as the list police. My bad! LOL... Lee, AA4GA

[Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread David Gilbert
You should have seen the several private emails Clay sent me a couple of months ago.  They literally could have been classified as hate mail, all because I posted something he felt was critical of Elecraft on some topic or another. There is indeed something wrong there ...  Dave   AB7E

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Bert
Clay is obviously a very angry man who needs help! I hope this behavior will be stopped on this list. Bert VE3NR On 2023-10-23 14:07, Andrew Moore wrote: Lashing out is an indication of an unrelated underlying issue. Feelings of inadequacy or inferiority. Real or imagined. 73, -Andrew NV1B ..

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread David Gilbert
How very boorish of you.  The original post (read it below) specifically asked for comparison information, and Wes merely answered. You are the consummate Elecraft fanboy here and that's fine. but don't try to impose your perspective on everyone else. Dave   AB7E On 10/23/2023 8:22 AM,

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Andrew Moore
Lashing out is an indication of an unrelated underlying issue. Feelings of inadequacy or inferiority. Real or imagined. 73, -Andrew NV1B .. On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 2:02 PM Clay Autery wrote: > LMAO! Yes, because anecdotal story-telling on this list by various > un/under-qualified people

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Toast
Wayne, Eric, Do you have thoughts about excluding discussion of the performance of your products against those from other manufacturers? Rob Mantz Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:02 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > > LMAO! Yes, because anecdotal story-telling on this list by various

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Clay Autery
LMAO!  Yes, because anecdotal story-telling on this list by various un/under-qualified people making comments on equipment they cannot even BEGIN to understand MUCH LESS operate anywhere near its capabilities. This is the Elecraft manufacturer's list.  It is here to discuss ELECRAFT gear. 

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Toast
In my opinion it was rude. Speaking of putting on one’s big boy pants who was it that said “I have one for sale on QRZ as part of or on its own. I will not post it here, because I was openly mocked the last time I posted my stuff for sale.” Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2023, at 1:49 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Clay Autery
No sir, that was not the least you could say.  You could have kept your mouth shut and keyboard silent. You are also WRONG.  I was NOT rude.  I was patient and courteous. I can assure you that you most decidedly DO NOT want me to SHOW you "rude". Now...  pull your panties up and start acting

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Linda M
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Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Lee Hiers
Well, he *did* say "please"! ;-) 73 de Lee, AA4GA On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 12:58 PM James Bennett via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > Rude, to say the least. > > > > > > On Oct 23, 2023, at 9:22 AM, Clay Autery wrote: > > > > I don't come to this list to talk about Kenwood.

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread James Bennett via Elecraft
Rude, to say the least. > On Oct 23, 2023, at 9:22 AM, Clay Autery wrote: > > I don't come to this list to talk about Kenwood. Please take your Kenwoo0d > stuff to another list. Groups.io, etc... > > Clay E. Autery, Jr. > KY5G > > On 10/22/2023 10:17 PM, Wes wrote: >> Like you I own a

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Toast
I came to this list to have honest conversations about the comparison of Elecraft equipment vs other manufacturers. I prefer to live without my head in the sand. Rob Mantz NR4B Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Clay Autery wrote: > > I don't come to this list to talk

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-23 Thread Clay Autery
I don't come to this list to talk about Kenwood.  Please take your Kenwoo0d stuff to another list.  Groups.io, etc... Clay E. Autery, Jr. KY5G On 10/22/2023 10:17 PM, Wes wrote: Like you I own a K3 and owned and sold a K3S.  I also have a KPA500 and KAT500.  I too got tired of waiting for a

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-22 Thread Wes
Like you I own a K3 and owned and sold a K3S.  I also have a KPA500 and KAT500.  I too got tired of waiting for a K4 and bought a TS-890.  Elecraft radios taught me to always have a spare, so considering similar ergonomics, I also acquired a TS-590.  Before all of these I had a Kenwood TS-870

Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-22 Thread Mark Musick
and if you look through the archives you will find his comments. 73, Mark, WB9CIF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of John Canfield Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 17:59 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance? Hi all, Long

[Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

2023-10-22 Thread John Canfield
Hi all, Long time fan of Elecraft, I have a K3s and a KPA1500, both are currently in service. My primary HF radio is now a TS-890, I bought it about four or so years ago after giving up waiting on the K4's to be off the shelf ready to purchase. So on to my questions about the two rigs. For