Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-29 Thread Peter Lambert
is brilliant. Peter, VK4JD -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith Sent: Monday, 28 January 2013 10:26 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3 Looking

[Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Fred Smith
Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I have the MFJ telescopic with the taps you plug into for the different but there must be something better out there. What have others used that they have been pleased with performance of? I have checked the reviews of

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Bruce Beford
Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I think you just summed it up nicely yourself. These telescopic antennas with loading coils at the bottom are all going to be many dB down from even a modest wire antenna on a push up pole, like a Jackite kite pole.

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
Well Antenna theory and operation, like the rest of physics, always hold true (nuclear blasts don't count)... so the more radiating surface (wire length or tubing surface) you can get in the air... the better. There is also a convenience factor, meaning whatever it is needs to tune for the band

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread David F. Reed
Fred, for many, my self included, as long a wire as high up in a tree as I can get it, with a counterpoise about 50' long is my favorite. The antenna wire up in the tree and going down to ground at the far end, and to the rig (Via BNC to binder post adapter) is typically about 130' in my

[Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread W4SK
Look at the PAR end fed wire. So convenient, well made, works like a CHAMP. Use it with my own KX3. http://www.lnrprecision.com/ Have fun! -73- W4SK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Fred Smith
all my antennas at home outdoors. Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Beford Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:15 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread David Cutter
Have a look at multi-band off-centre-fed dipoles, loads of examples and good reading here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/windom_antenna/ Also covers baluns and tuners David G3UNA __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Gil G.
I'll second that. I have the PAR 40/20/10 and it works great. Also good when there are no trees around is the Buddistick. It works well up to and including 30m, but not so well on 40 with the original whip and coil. Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:32 AM, W4SK

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Fred Smith
I'm checking out each and every one of the antennas suggested a really good mix. One question the Buddipole vs. Buddistick which is best and the main performance issues between the 2 from those using them? The Par is very interesting, I might be wishing for too much but the WARC bands would be

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Chip Stratton
The wire pulled up into a tree and tuned with the KX3 ATU works well for me 40 ft with 3 16 foot radials on the ground). So also does a PAR end fedz antenna, though I just have the 20m version. Sometimes putting a wire into a tree isn't the ideal (like on some SOTA peak activations). For that,

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Gil G.
The PAR works great on 40m, it's the Buddistick that is inefficient on that band with the original coil and whip. A magnetic loop isn't hard to build. You can get an air variable capacitor, say 100pF, some soft copper coil from the hardware store and PVC tubing for support and build one in no

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Ariel Jacala
The par end fed z has served me well portable - used it for 2012 field day and placed second in our class - although we did have a hex beam as well for daytime operation - when 40 went long in the middle of the night - the par end fed did great. I typically get into eastern Europe with the

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread W0FK
Makes me want to run out and build one right away!! :-) Lou, W0FK Gil G. wrote ...The downside is the ... potentially lethal voltages - St. Louis, MO K3 #2513, P3 #620, KX3 #0036 -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Donald Butler
: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 5:26 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3 Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Richard
Potentially lethal reminds me of one particular engineer I encountered back when I managed haz waste site cleanups. He was deathly afraid of nackle. Short exposure was known to be deadly to plant and animals, and worker exposure limits were very short. Nackle, I had no clue until I

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Bruce Beford
Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3 Ok I give up I have some 31' telescoping fiberglass windsock poles collapse to 4' but still a hassle to setup. The guys, ground stakes, ground rod, counterpoise'sbut it will work well. At home now I have 75' of low loss RG-58U terminated with a BNC connector

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Gil G.
Hello, I meant potentially lethal if you touch the loop while transmitting, as in electrocution, not RF exposure… But we are diverting from the Elecraft subject here... Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Richard wrote: Need dose info. Frequency,

Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

2013-01-28 Thread Jim Lowman
If you want something reasonably portable that will deploy quickly, you might consider the EFHW vertical antenna from the Emergency Amateur Radio Club in Hawaii: http://www.earchi.org/92011endfedfiles/Endfed6_40.pdf You can buy some or all of the parts needed from the club, and the cost