Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-13 Thread Chris W7CTH
This link from W5EZY should make all the old D-104's come back to life. Chris W7CTH -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/D104-mic-tp5276371p5290288.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-12 Thread David Pratt
Replacement crystal elements are available for $12 on ebay.com, Grant Bob. They are not the genuine article but they are a similar size and the speech quality is indistinguishable from the original Astatic version; I use one. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Bob Stevens

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-12 Thread Richard S. Lindzen
Does anyone have experience with the amplified D104? Dick, KA1SA, #911 At 10:45 PM 7/11/2010, Paul Christensen wrote: The cartridge in mine went bad; too much West Texas heat I guess. But it still looks good :-) Mouser carries close replacements of the original Astatic crystal cartridge.

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-12 Thread Tom W8JI
Does anyone have experience with the amplified D104? Dick, KA1SA, #911 I cut those boards out of mine, except for the PTT switch mounting. I prefer something more simple and easily controlled. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic 50 cent solution...

2010-07-12 Thread Bill NY9H
I'd think that way to go would be to put a $ .50 electret capsule or one swapped from an old telephone set ( you know the junkers) that used an electret ,.,,, set the bias on, tweak up the EQ IF preferred,,,and have a great sounding d-104... I put one in front of a dynamic cartridge in one

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic 50 cent solution...

2010-07-12 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:22:06 -0400, Bill NY9H wrote: I'd think that way to go would be to put a $ .50 electret capsule or It worked for Bob Heil! 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-12 Thread Mark - W5EZY
Does anyone have experience with the amplified D104? Dick, KA1SA, #911 Dick, If you have a D104 with the original crystal element, you can build the below amplifier to interface with your K2/3. I did, and it worked great; had really good punch for dxing. I wired it to get power from the K2

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-12 Thread Richard S. Lindzen
Thanks. This is what I was looking for. The D104 is a classy looking mic. Dick At 03:46 PM 7/12/2010, Mark - W5EZY wrote: Does anyone have experience with the amplified D104? Dick, KA1SA, #911 Dick, If you have a D104 with the original crystal element, you can build the below amplifier

[Elecraft] D104 Mic

2010-07-12 Thread Robert Kirkland
Am surprised no one mentioned that the D104 was made with two types of elements, crystal, believe they were Rochelle salts or something like that and ceramic. If I remember correctly the ceramic was the D104C, had lower output and could withstand heat and rougher handling. I copied Tom's J310

Re: [Elecraft] D104 Mic

2010-07-12 Thread Bob Stevens
Why not? -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Kirkland Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:12 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] D104 Mic Am surprised no one mentioned that the D104 was made

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-11 Thread Phil Kane
On 7/10/2010 7:37 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: I understand it, but it is a shame that Astatic can no longer economically manufacture the original cartridge for something this venerable, if not downright iconic ... Definitely iconic - the D-104 was the overwhelmingly first choice of the

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-11 Thread Tom W8JI
Definitely iconic - the D-104 was the overwhelmingly first choice of the out-of-band-and-overpower CBers for use with their modified Yaesu FT-101E transceivers in the 1970s. Some of those folks eventually saw the light, got their ham licenses, abandoned CB, and became good hams. My

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-11 Thread Bob W7AVK
Tom and Gang - The D104 is a lot older. It was the first product of the Astatic Corporation founded in 1934 and made in Youngstown, Ohio. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astatic_Corporation 73 Bob W7AVK K3/100 kit s/n 4365 On 7/11/2010 1:42 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: My first exposure to

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-11 Thread Grant Youngman
I purchased my first one in 1959 with the adapter for a standard mic stand -- couldn't afford the PTT stand in those days, and a DX-40 didn't have PTT anyway. Ultimately I had (and still have) several sitting on the shelf, including the boxed version Astatic sold just before the end of

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-11 Thread Bob Nielsen
I have had my D104 since 1953 (used with a Viking II). It fell off the desk one day and I cringed and and looked inside to see that the crystal element had become detached. Isent it to Astatic asking them to give me an estimate for repair. The repaired mike came back by return mail, no

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-11 Thread Bob Stevens
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic I know a lot of people do this. But once done, it's no longer a D-104 -- it's just one more HC-5 in a fancy housing. This is one case where it may look like a duck, but doesn't necessarily sound like a duck. I recognize some may consider that a plus :-) I understand

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bob, Put a Heil HC-5 in it (Heil provides a kit) or put an electret element in the D-104 head. It will work great again. 73, Don W3FPR Bob Stevens wrote: The cartridge in mine went bad; too much West Texas heat I guess. But it still looks good :-)

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-11 Thread Paul Christensen
The cartridge in mine went bad; too much West Texas heat I guess. But it still looks good :-) Mouser carries close replacements of the original Astatic crystal cartridge. Less than $5 each, plenty in stock. I've used them as replacement cartridges in my ca. 1936 D104 and Shure 70H.

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-10 Thread Tom W8JI
as a voltage source. :-) - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:47:36 -0400, Tom W8JI wrote: It will sound great if you add a J310

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Stevens
I'm using one too. It Works great, good reports and is easy to install. Plus, the D104 is a beautiful mike. Hi, Chris, Heil makes a conversion kit for the D-104. I am using it and have had great results. If you would like more information, please see my eHam review at

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Stevens
] D104 mic I'm using one too. It Works great, good reports and is easy to install. Plus, the D104 is a beautiful mike. Hi, Chris, Heil makes a conversion kit for the D-104. I am using it and have had great results. If you would like more information, please see my eHam review at http

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-10 Thread Grant Youngman
I know a lot of people do this. But once done, it's no longer a D-104 -- it's just one more HC-5 in a fancy housing. This is one case where it may look like a duck, but doesn't necessarily sound like a duck. I recognize some may consider that a plus :-) I understand it, but it is a shame

[Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-09 Thread Chris Hembree
Anyone ever use a D-104 (non amp) on a K3. How does it sound? Chris W7CTH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
Chris, Unmodified, it will probably sound terrible (very 'bright with lots of highs, weak lows), but with a bit of work, it will sound great - just like Astatic intended. The D-104 element is either crystal or ceramic, and wants to work into a high impedance (like the grid of a vacuum tube

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-09 Thread WA6L
Hi, Chris, Heil makes a conversion kit for the D-104. I am using it and have had great results. If you would like more information, please see my eHam review at http://www.eham.net/reviews/review/65769 73, John, WA6L -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-09 Thread Tom W8JI
: [Elecraft] D104 mic Anyone ever use a D-104 (non amp) on a K3. How does it sound? Chris W7CTH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-09 Thread Hank Garretson
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Unmodified, it will probably sound terrible (very 'bright with lots of highs, weak lows), but with a bit of work, it will sound great - just like Astatic intended. My experience is different. When I first got my K3, I

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-09 Thread Paul Christensen
Use a 100k to 1 meg ohm resistor from gate to ground. Put a 560 ohm source resistor to ground, and couple the source to the K3 through a .47 uF cap. I agree with comments from Tom and Don. However, the leak resistor from the FET's gate to ground usually isn't necessary as the crystal

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-09 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:47:36 -0400, Tom W8JI wrote: It will sound great if you add a J310 or similar JFET source follower. Hams spend WAY too much time hand-wringing about impedance matching in audio circuits. Audio circuits have not been impedance matched for nearly 50 years! As long as the