Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-04 Thread Dave New
meters! 73, Sandy W5TVW -Original Message- From: Rick Bates Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:14 PM To: 'Sandy' Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction Hi Sandy, If I read

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-04 Thread Fred Jensen
I think we all need to be careful. In the case of USB, we put our suppressed carrier [i.e. dial reading on a K3] 1.5 KHz below the authorized center frequency. The USB energy is above that and fills the 2.8 MHz channel, and it's one QSO per channel. For CW, we are told to put our keyed RF

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-04 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
? Thanks es 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction I think we all need

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published

2012-02-04 Thread Mike Morrow
Sandy wrote: I am planning on trying CW for the first time on 60 meters on the new channel 3 on 5358.5. Just hope the PACTOR stuff doesn't jump on that channel and claim it. That channel will likely become the favorite 60 meter frequency for the several military and vintage commercial

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published

2012-02-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I guess the only thing not specified is where the PSK-31 signal shows up above the carrier frequency. Don't most PSK-31 transmissions use something around 1000 Hz? In the discussion part of the Report and Order, the Commission made it clear that the PSK31 signal *must* be located on the

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-04 Thread Rick Bates
First off, I'm not a lawyer (and reading it provided a headache) but my interpretation is: If USB, select the suppressed carrier on your display (K3). If CW, go to the CHANNEL CENTER (up 1.5 KHz from suppressed carrier). If PSK (RTTY) or PACTOR III, set as per USB; the suppressed carrier. *BUT*

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-04 Thread Sandy
See remarks included below... -Original Message- From: Dave New Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction Now I'm really confused. I thought I

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-04 Thread Sandy
Message- From: Fred Jensen Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:48 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction I think we all need to be careful. In the case of USB, we put our suppressed carrier

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:48 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction I think we all need to be careful. In the case of USB, we put our suppressed carrier [i.e. dial reading on a K3

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published

2012-02-04 Thread Sandy
channels. 73, Sandy W5TVW -Original Message- From: Mike Morrow Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 2:32 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published That channel will likely become the favorite 60 meter frequency for the several military

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published

2012-02-04 Thread Sandy
W5TVW -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 2:45 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published I guess the only thing not specified is where the PSK-31 signal shows up above the carrier frequency. Don't

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-04 Thread Sandy
To: Sandy Cc: k6...@foothill.net ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction On 2/4/2012 4:52 PM, Sandy wrote: All correct! It makes no difference what frequency you use on PSK! As long as the pair of tones

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published

2012-02-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
have overlooked it! 73, Sandy W5TVW -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 2:45 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published I guess the only thing not specified is where the PSK-31 signal shows up

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-04 Thread Brian Alsop
-Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:12 PM To: Sandy Cc: k6...@foothill.net ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction On 2/4/2012 4:52 PM, Sandy wrote

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published

2012-02-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
I would believe that the purpose of that requirement is that the primary user can take over the channel without undue effort - contact one user and cause that user to cease and desist will get the task done. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/4/2012 5:56 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Did you see this indicated

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules

2012-02-04 Thread Bruce Beford
Apologies to those who prefer top-posting- in this case, makes more sense to respond in line. Who is the referee determining the channel is empty? Propagation being what it is, two stations may have QSO's going on and none of the group , of 4 thinks hears the other pair. Another observer

[Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In Federal Register On 03 February 2012

2012-02-03 Thread Mike Morrow
The new FCC 60 meter band rules that were announced on 18 November 2012 http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2011/db1118/FCC-11-171A1.pdf have finally been published in the Federal Register today, 03 February 2012

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In Federal Register On 03 February 2012

2012-02-03 Thread Terry Schieler
] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In Federal Register On 03 February 2012 The new FCC 60 meter band rules that were announced on 18 November 2012 http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2011/db1118/FCC-11-171A1.pdf have finally been published in the Federal Register today

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In Federal Register On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-03 Thread Mike Morrow
I wrote: The new FCC 60 meter band rules ... have finally been published in the Federal Register today, 03 February 2012 http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-02-03/pdf/2012-2477.pdf That means they become effective 30 days from today, on 04 March 2012. The Ordering Clause of the published

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In Federal Register On 03 February 2012

2012-02-03 Thread Terry Conboy
Thanks for the update, Mike. Just so nobody get in trouble, the effective date is March 5, 2012, as specified in the notice. (I guess they don't know it's a leap year.) 73, Terry N6RY On 2012-02-03 6:05 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: The new FCC 60 meter band rules that were announced on 18 November

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In Federal Register On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-03 Thread Dave New
Did I miss the conversation about how the K3 will handle the rule changes? Firmware update in the works, anyone, or do we have to manually program all the weird mode offsets somehow ourselves, using macros? Makes my head hurt... 73, -- Dave, N8SBE On 2/3/2012 2:23 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: I

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In Federal Register On 03 February 2012

2012-02-03 Thread Mike Morrow
Did I miss the conversation about how the K3 will handle the rule changes? Firmware update in the works, anyone, or do we have to manually program all the weird mode offsets somehow ourselves, using macros? For my non-Elecraft HF rig, I just performed the obvious and simple. I programmed

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In Federal Register On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-03 Thread Wayne Burdick
It's on my list. I want to be the first one to make a 60-meter CW QSO anyway :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Dave New wrote: Did I miss the conversation about how the K3 will handle the rule changes? Firmware update in the works, anyone, or do we have to manually program

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In FederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-03 Thread Rick Bates
Wayne, Post when you'll be on if you can. You're WELL within my 'local' coverage area here in the foothills. Lessee, that starts at 4 PM Pacific time on 4 Mar 12 (local date)... You'll have to tolerate keyboard code, I've never been much on CW otherwise. Rick wa6nhc -Original

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published In FederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-03 Thread Sandy
. bandwidth. 73, Sandy W5TVW Wonder if someone would be ready for a 60 meter RF card for the K1? -Original Message- From: Wayne Burdick Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 5:01 PM To: Dave New Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-03 Thread Rick Bates
Hi Sandy, If I read it correctly, we can use RTTY, Pactor and PSK modes (using USB if AFSK) and are limited to 2.8 KHz. It said we were NOT limited to those modes for data as it would suppress experimentation. Since PSK is usually sound card based, keeping everything within the required 2.8 KHz

Re: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction

2012-02-03 Thread Sandy
, 2012 9:14 PM To: 'Sandy' Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] FCC 60m Band Change Rules Published InFederalRegister On 03 February 2012 - Correction Hi Sandy, If I read it correctly, we can use RTTY, Pactor and PSK modes (using USB if AFSK) and are limited to 2.8 KHz. It said we