Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-22 Thread Bill Frantz
I am sorry, but I must disagree with both Jim and Ray on this issue. Current computer audio interfaces are a fine way to introduce hams to digital modes and the only way to connect to an analog radio, but they are not the way to go for best-of-breed digital mode operation. As with CW and SSB,

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/19/2012 9:11 PM, Matt Murphy wrote: How does one determine the ideal balance of line out volume, line in sensitivity, sound card output volume, and sound card mic sensitivity? I've written some stuff up, and will post it when I return from Visalia. It's pretty easy. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Matt, You take the levels one at a time. Set the K3 Line Out to 9 or 10, then adjust your soundcard Line in slider so you have good printing on the screen. Then out the K3 in TX TEST - set the soundcard Line out (or volume) slider to about 2/3 of the scale, then adjust the K2 Line in gain to

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Bill Frantz
With a K3, the audio starts in digital form in the DSP. Converting it to analog to convert it back to digital for input to the computer can only introduce distortion. I'm lobbying Elecraft for a direct digital interface. :-) Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 4/18/12 at 21:54,

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/20/2012 9:36 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: With a K3, the audio starts in digital form in the DSP. Converting it to analog to convert it back to digital for input to the computer can only introduce distortion. I'm lobbying Elecraft for a direct digital interface. Yes, but -- there is the issue

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-20 Thread Ray Sills
Plus... if the audio levels are properly set, the distortion levels should be very low. Certainly, the distortions of the RF signal due to propagation would be worse than the conversion distortions. If you use the on-board method of sending RTTY or PSK31, you would get the benefit of not

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread Ian Kahn
If you don't use some sort of external interface, how do you key the rig? Just set up your software for DTR/RTS via the COM port if you have the RS-232 cable connected? Thanks and 73, Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team On Thu,

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread Tony Estep
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Ian Kahn km4ik@gmail.com wrote: ...how do you key the rig? Just set up your software for DTR/RTS via the COM port... = Yep, that's the way I do it. Works for digital, CW, and FSK. Don Wilhelm points out that for digital modes including AFSK you

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 4/19/2012 12:54 AM, Jim Brown wrote: Right, and I've long promoted that concept. BUT -- I've recently been comparing several (five so far) outboard A/D converters, four models that connect to the computer via USB, on that uses Firewire, and I've found that all of them result in

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 4/19/2012 9:05 AM, Ian Kahn wrote: If you don't use some sort of external interface, how do you key the rig? Just set up your software for DTR/RTS via the COM port if you have the RS-232 cable connected? You can do that if your logging software allows it (in some cases the digital software

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread Mike
When I first got my K3, I was adamant about using an interface, and FSK. I've since changed my opinion. The only drawback I see to using VOX for the digital modes is that since they are SSB, VOX for phone is on, and I really dislike that, preferring a foot switch. Wayne has promised it's on

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/19/2012 6:05 AM, Ian Kahn wrote: If you don't use some sort of external interface, how do you key the rig? Just set up your software for DTR/RTS via the COM port if you have the RS-232 cable connected? VOX Jim __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/19/2012 7:30 AM, Mike wrote: The only drawback I see to using VOX for the digital modes is that since they are SSB, VOX for phone is on, and I really dislike that, preferring a foot switch. Wayne has promised it's on the list. There's a simple menu setting to disable the Mic Input and use

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread erehm
...how do you key the rig? Just set up your software for DTR/RTS via the COM port... Yep, that's the way I do it. Works for digital, CW, and FSK. Some questions about keying the K3/KX3 for FSK: 1. Can someone post a schematic of what this (second) cable looks like (connectors, wiring) for

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread Richard Ferch
KJ7AE wrote: Some questions about keying the K3/KX3 for FSK: Answers interspersed with your questions below. Can someone post a schematic of what this (second) cable looks like (connectors, wiring) for the K3? http://www.aa5au.com/rttyinterface.html shows the circuit; what is not shown

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread erehm
Rich - Thanks. The was really helpful. Wayne - Could FSK control be added to ACC2 GPIO (like K3 ACC DIG0) and PTT toggled via the microphone connector, thus both available simultaneously to external RTTY software? I'm new at this, so apologies if I've proposed something stupid... /eric,

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-19 Thread Matt Murphy
Jim wrote: *as long as you take reasonable care to get levels right* How does one determine the ideal balance of line out volume, line in sensitivity, sound card output volume, and sound card mic sensitivity? 73, Matt NQ6N On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:02 PM, erehm er...@earthlink.net wrote: Rich

[Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-18 Thread Paul Milward
Thanks for the replies. I will check out MMTTY. Is it good only for AFSK or does it also support FSK? On FSK D the interface cable USB/RS232 that came with the K3 works very well with the K3 Utility software. Should I run the rig at reduced power like I do with PSK or is 100 watts oiu OK?

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-18 Thread Richard Ferch
MMTTY will do either FSK or AFSK, but in order to do FSK with MMTTY you will need additional hardware, namely a keying circuit from a separate serial port or USB-to-serial adapter (*not* the same serial port or adapter you are using for radio control) connected to pin 1 of the K3's ACC

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-18 Thread Tony Estep
It's worth pointing out that no interface is necessary with the K3. You don't need a Signalink or Rigblaster or whatever. All interfacing can be done with cables directly from K3 to PC. This simplest of hookups works with all digital modes including JT65 and WSPR, and nothing else is necessary to

Re: [Elecraft] Fw: RTTY Questions

2012-04-18 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/18/2012 7:11 PM, Tony Estep wrote: It's worth pointing out that no interface is necessary with the K3. You don't need a Signalink or Rigblaster or whatever. All interfacing can be done with cables directly from K3 to PC. Right, and I've long promoted that concept. BUT -- I've recently