Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: D 104

2011-06-05 Thread FredJensen
An aerodynamics engineer will tell you a bumblebee cannot fly. Plug it in, front or rear, set the MIC SEL menu appropriately and see how it works. I have a very old "Dispatcher" "variable reluctance" mic. I have no idea if it is Hi-Z or Lo-Z, and I don't know it's freq response. It worked f

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: D 104

2011-06-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Well, that's wonderful procedure for someone who has a rich easy to understand voice. Really. I don't have such a voice. Even when I'm trying to stage project, I sound like I'm talking through a muffle. What the K3 voice processing does for me is to elevate the highs enough so that a spectrogra

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: D 104

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Morgan
ok since this thread has assumed the usual endless back and forth, and before it is ended by the powers that be, I'd like to repeat what I said when I first answered, I now use an amplified D-104 on my K3 yes it does some impedance transformation magic, that's not why I use it, it just has a prett

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: D 104

2011-06-04 Thread Paul Christensen
> Then why not just put a 1 megohm or so resistor in series with the mic > element. I believe the K3 mic input has adequate gain to compensate for > it, and it will keep the crystal (or ceramic) mic element happy. > The KISS principle applies - a resistor is much more simple than an FET > or a tra

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: D 104

2011-06-04 Thread Hank Garretson
After reading all the comments about doing this and doing that, all I can say is ... I've made tens of thousands of SSB contacts using a fifty-year-old D-104 directly into the K3 with no resistors, no amplifiers, no transformers, no nothing. Audio quality reports were always outstanding. Don't le

[Elecraft] Fwd: D 104

2011-06-04 Thread Grant Youngman
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Grant Youngman > Date: June 4, 2011 5:29:16 PM CDT > To: Ron D'Eau Claire > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] D 104 > > Gain isn't the issue. It's the termination Z. A low Z termination will > destroy the frequency response. Why do that and the

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: D 104

2011-06-04 Thread Grant Youngman
If there's enough gain, probably work fine. As large an R as possible. The termination Z affects the low freq response of the element. I realize some here aren't keen on that, but it makes a difference :-) Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Grant, > > Then

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: D 104

2011-06-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Grant, Then why not just put a 1 megohm or so resistor in series with the mic element. I believe the K3 mic input has adequate gain to compensate for it, and it will keep the crystal (or ceramic) mic element happy. The KISS principle applies - a resistor is much more simple than an FET or a

[Elecraft] Fwd: D 104

2011-06-04 Thread Grant Youngman
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Grant Youngman > Date: June 4, 2011 3:12:03 PM CDT > To: "j...@audiosystemsgroup.com" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] D 104 > > 10-15k is not high enough for good performance from a D-104 element. It will > sound like a squeaker at best, ir w