Re: [Elecraft] K3: APF effectiveness

2011-01-29 Thread Robby.VY2SS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: APF effectiveness

2011-01-29 Thread Jim Sheldon
Hey Ralph Robby, After all the contest activity on 160 yesterday, after I shut down I had trouble getting to sleep because I was hearing all those phantom CW calls for several hours before it subsided. Seriously I was able to hear stations right on the noise that I would never have been

Re: [Elecraft] K3: APF effectiveness

2011-01-26 Thread Pete Smith
Heck, I can hear thiose phantoms with the radio off (tinnitus). Fortunately it subsides in the presence of other noise - just like with the APF, which works FB for me on the low bands. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse

[Elecraft] K3: APF effectiveness

2011-01-26 Thread PTA_ABD
Exactly my thoughts. I found the initial beta release with APF to be excellent. After further improvements, more miss than hit, despite trying all the tricks. Just my two cents worth... Now back to the extensive QRP/QRO thread, and it's tenuous connection to the KPA500... Paul WB2ABD K3 #129

[Elecraft] K3: APF effectiveness

2011-01-25 Thread Ralph Parker
...perhaps less gain and a little wider BW or give the user the tools to do it ourselves. I was thinking exactly that myself last night on 160m - no problem with the bandwidth, but I'd gladly give up a db or two of APF gain to reduce the ringing. Because of the ringing, I can hear signals that

Re: [Elecraft] K3: APF effectiveness

2011-01-25 Thread Barry N1EU
What you're describing (hear signals that aren't even there) sounds to me like the APF is working just as intended. You're hearing faint ringing at your sidetone frequency when no signal is present. When a signal is present and tuned in, it will have precisely that same tone but will pop

Re: [Elecraft] K3: APF effectiveness

2011-01-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ralph, You have heard that to reduce the ringing, increase the DSP bandwidth. The 50 Hz filter width has a bit of ringing by itself, so add the APF and the situation becomes more pronounced. You can't have your cake and eat it too. The bit of ringing will bring out weak signals just like

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness

2010-11-21 Thread N2TK, Tony
: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness 5-Hz steps simply make it easier to tune the APF. This has absolutely no effect on the filter passband, Q, etc. Going back to 10-Hz steps would just make it harder to center signals when using SHIFT, as was the case with 4.17. Many

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness

2010-11-20 Thread John Seney
Hi All: I have the same experience as Igor. There is an APF sweet spot that either moved or disappeared. Would it be helpful if there was a GUI that let us save, load, share, and see all of the various K3 parameter settings that we are adjusting? On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:53 PM, Igor Kosvin

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness

2010-11-20 Thread Mike
John, For me also. K3 EZ gives you a lot of the parms. http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm 73, Mike NF4L On 11/20/2010 3:16 PM, John Seney wrote: Hi All: I have the same experience as Igor. There is an APF sweet spot that either moved or disappeared. Would it be helpful if there was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness

2010-11-20 Thread Dave Perry N4QS
Message - From: John Seney john.se...@gmail.com To: Igor Kosvin k.i...@comcast.net Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness Hi All: I have the same experience as Igor. There is an APF sweet spot

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness

2010-11-20 Thread David Christ
Just do two clicks at a time and you have 10 Hz steps, no? What am I missing? David K0LUM At 8:54 PM -0600 11/20/10, Dave Perry N4QS wrote: I agree that the signal doesn't pop out anymore with 4.22, but I think it is due to the change to 5 Hz tuning. It is harder to hear the peak in the signal

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness

2010-11-20 Thread Wayne Burdick
] K3 APF Effectiveness Hi All: I have the same experience as Igor. There is an APF sweet spot that either moved or disappeared. Would it be helpful if there was a GUI that let us save, load, share, and see all of the various K3 parameter settings that we are adjusting? On Nov 17

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness

2010-11-18 Thread Don Cunningham
Gentlemen, I am not a CW operator (yet) as I have let my 1960's Navy training go to pot, but might I suggest that something might be overlooked in this situation with the APF seeming less effective?? The common thing mentioned is that changes on one area often effect other areas in the

[Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness

2010-11-17 Thread wb6rse1
There are many variables at work with regard to judging the effectiveness of the K3 APF. In addition to the discussions of noise and careful tuning, there are user preferences to consider: 1) Headphones vs speakers 2) Enhancing a weak signal to pop up that would otherwise be copyable with

Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness

2010-11-17 Thread Igor Kosvin
, Igor, N1YX -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of wb6r...@mac.com Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:10 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 APF Effectiveness There are many variables at work