Re: [Elecraft] K3 Burn In

2008-07-08 Thread Philip Leonard WVØT
John King wrote: I'm sorry to hear about your failure at FD. I have heard no other reports of FD failures, and to my knowledge the VP6DX crew had no failures during their operation earlier this year. It may be of small comfort to you, but I regard your failure as an anomaly - stuff happens.

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Burn In

2008-07-08 Thread Brett Howard
] K3 Burn In John King wrote: I'm sorry to hear about your failure at FD. I have heard no other reports of FD failures, and to my knowledge the VP6DX crew had no failures during their operation earlier this year. It may be of small comfort to you, but I regard your failure as an anomaly

[Elecraft] K3 Burn In

2008-07-04 Thread Brett Howard
Has anyone done a burn in on their radios to test? They rate to 100W 100% duty cycle for 10 minutes. I'm sure there is quite a bit of headroom in that too. Has anyone tested to that? Do any of the Elecraft guys object to that type of testing? I had a strange failure at FD this year and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Burn In

2008-07-04 Thread G4ILO
Brett Howard wrote: Has anyone done a burn in on their radios to test? They rate to 100W 100% duty cycle for 10 minutes. I'm sure there is quite a bit of headroom in that too. Has anyone tested to that? Do any of the Elecraft guys object to that type of testing? I had a strange

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Burn In

2008-07-04 Thread John King
Disclaimer - the following test method is not approved or sanctioned by Elecraft. Conduct any testing at your own risk. I work in Quality Assurance in my day job (30 years and counting.) Long before FD I performed a 24 hour endurance test on my K3 to approximate worst-case FD conditions. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Burn In

2008-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Folks, John was quite correct to term his test an 'Endurance Test'. I have worked as an Assurrance Engineer for the latter part of my career and would like to offer the following: The purpose of any 'burn-in' tests for complete electronic assemblies I have encountered is *not* to stress

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Burn In

2008-07-04 Thread Brett Howard
I agree that sounds like a pretty good test. The K3 is a PHENOMENAL radio and I'm very familiar with things breaking in their infancy. I'm just hoping that the kinks are very well buried when it comes back. Appreciate the tips on what you did On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 09:25 -0400, John

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Burn In

2008-07-04 Thread Brett Howard
Totally agree. I was somewhat appreciative that FD helped me find the problem as soon as possible and was wondering if solid type TX would be a good way to do an accelerated test. From what I'm hearing now and I agree a FD simulation w/ full QSK running is probably more real world. You are

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Burn In

2008-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brett, If it was working before the failure, one should always assume a single failure. Multiple failures are quite rare and are normally induced by some outside force (incorrect power, lightning surge, etc.) There are instances where one failed component will take out another one, but