Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-26 Thread Igor Sokolov
Expert 1K-FA can eavesdrop on the connection between the PC and K3 and change setting of Expert's antenna tuner depending on frequency prior to TX. Microham keyers can also listen to responses of K3 being polled by logging program. When no polling from logger occurs, Microham starts polling

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-26 Thread John Shaw
: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner Expert 1K-FA can eavesdrop on the connection between the PC and K3 and change setting of Expert's antenna tuner depending on frequency prior to TX. Microham keyers can also listen to responses of K3 being polled by logging program. When no polling from

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/24/2012 10:58 AM, Keith-K5ENS wrote: The K3 can be polled for this data. Many loggers are doing it Yes, but that is via the RS232 port, not the Aux Bus. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-25 Thread Jim Brown
Another point. Elecraft designed the KAT500 so that can be used with almost any rig and almost any good power amp. Part of that design is determining the operating frequency by sensing RF and counting the frequency. Why is this important? Because it increases (potentially by a lot) the

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-25 Thread Keith-K5ENS
We're talking adding features for the K line. Not removing any. Keith, XE3/K5ENS Another point. Elecraft designed the KAT500 so that can be used with almost any rig and almost any good power amp. Part of that design is determining the operating frequency by sensing RF and counting the

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/25/2012 7:06 PM, Keith-K5ENS wrote: We're talking adding features for the K line. Not removing any. You're missing something. The limitation is the hardware design of the K3, and there's nothing the KAT designer could have done about that (or could do now). We are stuck with that.

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-25 Thread John Shaw
:02 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner On 12/25/2012 7:06 PM, Keith-K5ENS wrote: We're talking adding features for the K line. Not removing any. You're missing something. The limitation is the hardware design of the K3, and there's nothing

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-24 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/23/2012 11:27 AM, John Shaw wrote: if the KAT500 was passed the operating frequency information from the transceiver instead of just band information that would elevate it from a good tuner to a great tuner. As a beta tester for the KAT500, I can tell you that 1) Elecraft says that this

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-24 Thread Keith-K5ENS
+1) Elecraft says that this data is NOT available at the output of the K3; + The K3 can be polled for this data. Many loggers are doing it. There is even some software that is polling data from the logger at the same time. Keith -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-24 Thread Tom H Childers
I have absolutely no complaints regarding the KAT500. I have two sets of antennae connected to the KAT500. One set is an 8 position switch box and the other is an NVIS loop that covers all frequencies from 2.2MHz to 28MHz used for short distance communications on MARS. The antennae on the

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-24 Thread Dick Dievendorff
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Keith-K5ENS Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 10:58 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner +1) Elecraft says that this data is NOT available at the output of +the K3; + The K3 can be polled for this data

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-24 Thread ab2tc
Hi, The frequency data is not available on the *AUX* bus. On the serial port this data is of course available but to make it available to KAT500 would involve at least one PC software program. I have in mind to ask Larry Phipps if maybe he could add a feature to LP-Bridge to feed the frequency

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-24 Thread Keith-K5ENS
The KAT500 following the radio by frequency is not going to happen but that would make a GREAT new generation auto tuner. IMHO Keith, XE3/K5ENS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feasible-tp7567559p7567643.html Sent from

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-24 Thread ab2tc
Hello again, A simpler way that would only involve changes to the KAT500 utility would to have the utility talk to both the K3 and the KAT500. Even if the K3 is already busy talking to a logging program, LP-Bridge unmodified can fix that conflict. So now we have just created more work for Dick.

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
LP-Bridge alone will not help. While K3 Utility can obtain the frequency information through LP-Bridge, that information would only be sent out the same serial port back to the K3 - nothing gained. Remember that the KAT500 uses a different serial connection than does the K3, so that data

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-24 Thread ab2tc
Hi, I wish I had better drawing skills - a picture is worth more than a 1000 words. The utility would communicate with the KAT500 as it does now plus an additional connection to the K3 - either directly or through LP-Bridge. Changes would be required to the utility and the KAT500 firmware, none

[Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread John Shaw
Having a KPA500 and been a potential customer for the KAT500 I have been watching reports about the KAT500 operation, unless I misunderstand it seems the KAT500 only has band information available to it so it needs a sniff of RF to make band segment adjustments. I think it can already store

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread Keith-K5ENS
I have asked the same question about the KAT500 following the K3 as tuned to be ready for any keying of the K3. I was told the relays in the KAT500 would click as I was tuning. SO? As an option I think that would be fine to know the KAT500 was tuned at all time. Keith, XE1/K5ENS -- View

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread John Shaw
pipe up. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Keith-K5ENS Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:00 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner I have asked

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread John Shaw
probably no chatter at all. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Shaw Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:46 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread Edward Dickinson III
Something not unlike K3_EZ's SWR band scan comes to mind for a tool to preset. Dick - KA5KKT My poor choice of words with intervals. I meant frequency intervals not time, that would be dumb. These could be further apart if you antenna is more broad

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread Gary Gregory
. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Shaw Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:46 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner Very good

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread Gary Gregory
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Shaw Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:46 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner Very good thought, yes that would happen. A compromise could be some sort of matrix with this mode of operation where you train

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread Keith-K5ENS
Not everyone has the KPA500. Keith +The kat500 stores information in what are termed 'Bins' and communication of data via Auxbus recalls memories from these 'Bin' locations and hot switching does not occur. +I can QSY, with the kpa500 in OPER and 'IF' the kat500 needs to tune it

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread Gary Gregory
Keith, The kpa500 is NOT required to make the kat500 work as described. In the manual, and the utility describes operation of the kat500 in both auto and manual modes and 'teaching' the kat500 can be done with the utility. Any brand amplifier will only need the Key Line routed from the

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-23 Thread John Shaw
: Monday, 24 December 2012 11:42 To: John Shaw Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner The kat500 stores information in what are termed 'Bins' and communication of data via Auxbus recalls memories from these 'Bin' locations and hot switching does not occur