Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-22 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - This topic was closed yesterday. 73, Eric mooderator /elecraft.com/ On 8/22/2019 8:49 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: Yes and the most issues I encounter in assisting other hams is that they DO NOT read the manuals.   They take the approach "aw heck, I know how that works".   Well that is

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-22 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Yes and the most issues I encounter in assisting other hams is that they DO NOT read the manuals.   They take the approach "aw heck, I know how that works".   Well that is just downright wrong.   Look at the questions asked and issues presented and just how many of those are or can be answered

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-22 Thread Bill Mader
Yes, I've found it there Bill, but not when I'm in the boonies with no cell reception. I always have one, usually more, computers with me. 73, Bill Mader, K8TE W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 7-15 Sep 2019 Duke City Hamfest BoD www.dukecityhamfest.org 20-22 Sep 2019 President,

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-22 Thread Nr4c
But it’s on the INTERNET! Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 22, 2019, at 8:14 AM, K8TE wrote: > > The current version of the KAT500 manual is Rev C6 (3/8/17) and directs users > to connect the power cable to "the station 11 to 15 VDC power supply". This > is another reason why

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-22 Thread K8TE
The current version of the KAT500 manual is Rev C6 (3/8/17) and directs users to connect the power cable to "the station 11 to 15 VDC power supply". This is another reason why we should use the most current manuals and update them with firmware changes. Elecraft is one of the few in this

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/21/2019 5:55 AM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: While it’s important to use quality components with high power for safety, its also important to use quality components especially to minimize losses with low power. Yep. Our QRP operation for FD uses big coax. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-21 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
[End of Thread] Looks like Carter has gotten a wealth of good info on coax type vs power and feedline loss. :-) Let's let the thread end for now in the interest of relieving list email overload for other readers. In general, please take discussions off list or end them when more than 5-10

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-21 Thread Carter Craigie
Good point, Chuck, I understand and concur completely. 73, Carter, N3AO Blacksburg, VA On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 8:55 AM hawley, charles j jr wrote: > While it’s important to use quality components with high power for safety, > its also important to use quality components especially to minimize

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-21 Thread hawley, charles j jr
While it’s important to use quality components with high power for safety, its also important to use quality components especially to minimize losses with low power. Just sayin’ Chuck Jack Hawley KE9UW Sent from my iPhone, cjack > On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:51 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft >

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-21 Thread David Gilbert
That's not a universally true statement. Several years ago I was trying to decide which antenna to buy, and my choice came down to two antennas that were 2 db apart.  I created some audio files by recording typical band noise and then overlaying them with recorded CW messages at various

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Carter; Welcome to the world of higher power. The information you have received from others is very good. There is one other thing to watch for, it is something that most hams who upgrade to higher power experience. When we operate at low power, there are a lot of things we can get away with

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/20/2019 9:18 PM, Jim Danehy wrote: ONE DB loss is the LEAST DETECTABLE amount a human can detect. Not true. One dB IS approximately the smallest change in LOUDNESS that most listeners can hear, but what matters in radio is signal to noise ratio, and 1 dB can be the difference between

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/20/2019 6:58 PM, Mike Harris via Elecraft wrote: It is a shame to see folks go cheap on the cable. My rule of thumb is 1dB or less between the rig and the antenna at the highest frequency of operation. RIGHT! 73, Jim K9YC __

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/20/2019 3:49 PM, Nr4c wrote: From what I have read on eHam Reviews, it appears that I can run the amp/tuner combo on 117v. from the convenient wall socket. Is that correct, as well? The KPA500 runs on 120V or 240V.  The KAT500 runs on 11-15VDC. My two K3s (original model) run on a 100Ah

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Jim Danehy
Losses in COAX is KEY DOWN CONDITIONS. ONE DB loss is the LEAST DETECTABLE amount a human can detect. Hardly if not impossible to notice. Jim W9VNE/VA3VNE Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:28 PM, Mark Goldberg wrote: > > Take a look at this coax loss calculator. It will tell

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Goldberg
Take a look at this coax loss calculator. It will tell you how much loss there is in the coax, including extra loss due to SWR. You will have to determine how much loss you can tolerate. https://www.qsl.net/co8tw/Coax_Calculator.htm 73, Mark W7MLG On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 12:19 PM Carter Craigie

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Mike Harris via Elecraft
It is a shame to see folks go cheap on the cable. My rule of thumb is 1dB or less between the rig and the antenna at the highest frequency of operation. Warm coax is lost rf which we have paid heavily to generate. Regards, Mike VP8NO

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Ted Edwards W3TB
The 110 Volt AC will be fine and draw 9 amps key down — within a 15 amp circuit breaker with plenty for more uses. If VSWR is ok then RG-8X is fine. I have used LMR-240 as well but is intended for higher frequencies up to UHF. Have fun out there! On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 17:50 Nr4c wrote: >

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Nr4c
RG-8X will be fine. LMR-240 is also a good choice, a little less loss. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 20, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Carter Craigie wrote: > > Hello friends, > > I am contemplating buying a KPA500 amplifier/tuner Combo, and driving it > from my Elecraft K2/100 rig. I

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 21:11 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements Because in the manual, page 4, item 2 states "Connect to the station 11 to 15 VDC power s

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Musick
Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 21:11 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements Because in the manual, page 4, item 2 states "Connect to the station 11 to 15 VDC

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Musick
Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 21:11 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements Because in the manual, page 4, item 2 states "Connect to the station 11 to 15 VDC

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements Carter: The KAT500 can be {should be} powered from the radio 12V supply. I don't suggest a separate wall wart. The KPA500 can be powered from either 120VAC or 240VAC, your choice. It should drive on all bands with 20 t

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Musick
: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of hawley, charles j jr Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 20:45 To: Ken K6MR Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements I think the issue is to be sure the tuner powers up with or after the K3. But, mine turns on first

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread hawley, charles j jr
qth.net on > behalf of Bob McGraw K4TAX > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:59:11 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements > > Carter: > > The KAT500 can be {should be} powered from the radio 12V supply. I > don't

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Ken K6MR
] KPA500 Coax size requirements Carter: The KAT500 can be {should be} powered from the radio 12V supply. I don't suggest a separate wall wart. The KPA500 can be powered from either 120VAC or 240VAC, your choice. It should drive on all bands with 20 to 30 watts output from the K2 to reach full

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Carter: The KAT500 can be {should be} powered from the radio 12V supply.   I don't suggest a separate wall wart. The KPA500 can be powered from either 120VAC or 240VAC, your choice.  It should drive on all bands with 20 to 30 watts output from the K2 to reach full 500 watts output from the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread David Bunte
Carter - I run my KPA500 from the 120v outlet in my shack. I have done so for years with no problems. I use LMR400 coax, but I know several folks who use RG8-X with the KPA500, even on very long runs and some with amps putting out 1000 to 1500 watts. The better your antenna the less of a problem

[Elecraft] KPA500 Coax size requirements

2019-08-20 Thread Carter Craigie
Hello friends, I am contemplating buying a KPA500 amplifier/tuner Combo, and driving it from my Elecraft K2/100 rig. I hope I would be able to do that! From what I have read on eHam Reviews, it appears that I can run the amp/tuner combo on 117v. from the convenient wall socket. Is that correct,