Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and Hard Part of Building a K3

2013-05-28 Thread Mark Petiford
[Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and Hard Part of Building a K3 ...Freedom of choice is way cool! Keith AK6ZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and Hard Part of Building a K3

2013-05-28 Thread Keith Heimbold
When I get past the raising of my son and working 70-80 hours a week I will consider kit building as a honor, but until then i focus my little spare time on operating and messing with antennas (which are my number one fascination in this hobby). Freedom of choice is way cool! Keith AK6ZZ _

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and Hard Part of Building a K3

2013-05-28 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/28/2013 11:19 AM, Stephen Roberts wrote: I'm with you, the building without solder smoke didn't appeal too much to me so I ordered my KX3 factory built Yes, but saving the difference in cost always appeals to me. :) Everything I've bought from Elecraft has been a kit for that reason alo

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-28 Thread Stephen Roberts
I'm with you, the building without solder smoke didn't appeal too much to me so I ordered my KX3 factory built ;-) Steve W1SFR On May 28, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: > I agree with George. I'd jump at the chance to build another kit like > the K2, but the K3 really didn't do a

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-28 Thread Phil Hystad
To me, building the non-soldering kits is preferred over factory but not because of some need to do kit building. I do the kits to have a more intimate hands on (whatever that may be) knowledge if the internals of the box. Also, I enjoy the feeling of the appreciation of the design and engineer

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-28 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
I agree with George. I'd jump at the chance to build another kit like the K2, but the K3 really didn't do all that much for me. It made me more familiar with the various parts, but I have plenty of projects around the house that I can do with a screwdriver that satisfy my need to do assembly. I m

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-28 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Kit! Definitely. 73 Arie PA3A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please he

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-28 Thread Fred Smith
--KPA500--KAT500--W2 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Hague Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:10 AM Cc: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options? Hi Bill and congratulations. Jus

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-27 Thread Edward R Cole
Just to add to Ron's comment (and merely conjecture on my part): I would guess the pc boards in the K3 kit are tested in a standard "jig" which connects the various boards and subassemblies so that it may be fully tested as it would be connected in a fully factory assembled unit. I worked for

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Tim Hague
assing the general and extra in one sitting and > welcome to our world. It's a fantastic place! > > 73 - Pete - K7WTG > > > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Blomgren [mailto:billb...@nc.rr.com] > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:52 PM > To: elecraf

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Peter Hedberg
e! 73 - Pete - K7WTG -Original Message- From: Bill Blomgren [mailto:billb...@nc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:52 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options? I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
turally. A tripod antenna can find its way into the storage room easily... a Mag Loop? Get it up to the 6 or 7 foot level, and hope no one yanks on it. - Original Message - From: "Josh Fiden" To: Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Bill Blomgren
: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options? Considering you're initially running SSB with compromised antennas, I would definitely look at K3-100 and not run QRP. You don't need any filter to start besides the stock 2.7 or 8-pole

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Wes Stewart
I've designed and built a lot of gear in my 55 years of ham radio (see http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html for a couple of the simpler projects). I also "built" my K3/100, which isn't much of a challenge, but frankly if I were you and time was limited, I would just buy one assembled. For options, maybe

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Josh Fiden
Considering you're initially running SSB with compromised antennas, I would definitely look at K3-100 and not run QRP. You don't need any filter to start besides the stock 2.7 or 8-pole 2.8kHz, the DSP will do the rest until you know what you want to do and where you want improved performance.

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-27 Thread Robert Biamonte
Hello, I built the K3, the Panadapter and the 500w amp with no trouble at all. I liked the ancient Heathkits and this was much easier. Each kit consists of plugging things together or inserting boards into connectors and the like. The instructions are straight forward and the Tech Support

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Brendon Whateley
That has not been my experience at all. They come back with "how do you operate or intend to operate" and then go from there. Since so many of them use the equipment, I found them to be a great resource when ordering. It all comes down to knowing what you want to do... - Brendon KK6AYI On M

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
The good thing is you can add stuff later, if you need it. I would start out with a CW filter/RTTY Filter, 100 watts and the tuner. If you plan to xmit FM or AM you will need the appropriate filter. The Xvter board is nice if you use receiving antennas. The sub Rcv is great if you like to

[Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Bill Blomgren
I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly I'm not sure I have enough time to build a K3.. (which is what I'm currently looking at..) - or a KX3. My problem: deciding which options will be useful. I've never "done" hf... I've been a broadcaster (with 20kw into 4" heliax wi

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-27 Thread george fritkin
factory build as well my KAT500   George, W6GF From: Dyarnes To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? Dick, My first inclination would be to say "do the kit".  As others

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-27 Thread Dyarnes
Dick, My first inclination would be to say "do the kit". As others have said, it's not terribly difficult--more assembly than anything, and you just put it together piece by piece. Perhaps the most laborious part of the process is doing a careful inventory of the parts, and arranging them lo

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-27 Thread Fred Smith
craft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:14 PM To: 'Dave Hachadorian'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? I believe the individual board

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Age attacks us all differently. I'm in my mid-70's and don't hesitate to tackle a build, even one using very small SMDs. If you can assemble something using 4-40 hardware, you can build a K3. However, I can no longer run five miles on the beach. That's a bummer. As my friend Fred and I have oft

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-26 Thread Fred Jensen
Hi Dick, I've built all my Elecraft radios and accessories [K2, KX1, K3, P3, KPA500, KAT500, and a W1]. I was 63 when I built the K2, it took a lot of concentration and no building if tired or had a glass of wine or a beer with dinner. I banned the vacuum from the room for the duration. I

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-26 Thread Dave Hachadorian
7;Eau Claire Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 3:13 PM To: 'Dave Hachadorian' ; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? I believe the individual boards in the kits undergo the same production testing as the factory-assembled units. Eric has weighed in

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Dave Hachadorian Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:36 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? I think it is well worth the extra $200 to purchase at least a basic factory-assembled K3-10. If you are interested in saving a few bucks and getting to know the innards

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-26 Thread Bill
I built the K3 and bought the P3. To do it again, I would have bought the K3 built also. It isn't putting it together - took about eight hours and nothing was difficult. However, the P3 was up and running in 30 minutes. And, of course, there is the factor of "factory tested." I plan on the 5

Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-26 Thread Dave Hachadorian
the testing at the board level. The radio is a great value, even at the factory-assembled price. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, Arizona -Original Message- From: Richard W Hemingway Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:22 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Kit or factory

[Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3?

2013-05-26 Thread Richard W Hemingway
One more question: Kit or factory assembled K3? Thanks for your help. I am practically 86 but I think that I could handle the kit. Dick, N5XRD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://