Re: [Elecraft] Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation

2010-12-08 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
After the perfect manual has been written in English, a useful next step IMHO would be to have the manual translated properly into some other language(s). Expensive yes, but there must be a large number of Elecraft's customers, and potential customers, who have difficulty with English. A

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2010-12-07 Thread samuel ernst-fortin
Bill, FWIW: my background is EE with a minor in Industrial Psych (specifically Human Factors / Ergonomics / Usability Engineering). One book which resonated with me as an engineer is Psychology of Everyday Things. In it, the author discusses mental models, and those of the developer vs. those

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2010-12-07 Thread Don Nelson
On 12/7/2010 6:24 AM, samuel ernst-fortin wrote: Bill, FWIW: my background is EE with a minor in Industrial Psych (specifically Human Factors / Ergonomics / Usability Engineering). One book which resonated with me as an engineer is Psychology of Everyday Things. In it, the author discusses

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2010-12-07 Thread Don Cunningham
Don, I wager you are underestimating. I would bet the number of additional sales would be 1,000+, HEAVY on the plus. Also I fear that MANY people monitor the noise on this list and go on to other radios after monitoring for only a short time. 73, Another Don, WB5HAK

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2010-12-07 Thread David Gilbert
I've owned my K3 for roughly two years, use it a lot, and I love it. I think I know how most of it works and how to set it up, but there is simply no question that the K3 user manual is a horrible piece of documentation. There is a lot of information there, but it is fragmented and terribly

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2010-12-07 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
Sam, The short version of what you say below is, in my words, If I can't carry it to the thrown with me it's of no help. However, it does seem that there are book sellers and writers out there that are diligently trying to solve my problem. I love my BN NookBook ;o) and have the Elecraft

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2010-12-07 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/7/2010 9:16 AM, David Gilbert wrote: there is simply no question that the K3 user manual is a horrible piece of documentation. There is a lot of information there, but it is fragmented and terribly organized. I could understand how the manual might be weak coming out of the chute, but

[Elecraft] Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation

2010-12-07 Thread W2bpi1
H, I wonder why one of you guys that know how it should done, don't go ahead and write the perfect manual. (Seriously) Perhaps Elecraft would buy it. Or this could be your donation to your fellow K3 owners. It would save a lot of space on the reflector too. Only those who can't read

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2010-12-07 Thread Hardy Landskov
to take some getting used to. The manual could have softened the blow. 73 Hardy N7RT - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation

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2010-12-07 Thread Jim Campbell
Or set up a wiki and let it be a community effort. 73, Jim - W4BQP K2 #2268 On 12/7/2010 8:37 PM, w2b...@aol.com wrote: H, I wonder why one of you guys that know how it should done, don't go ahead and write the perfect manual. (Seriously) Perhaps Elecraft would buy it. Or this could be

Re: [Elecraft] Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation

2010-12-07 Thread Ken Alexander
- Ken, VE3HLS --- On Tue, 12/7/10, w2b...@aol.com w2b...@aol.com wrote: From: w2b...@aol.com w2b...@aol.com Subject: [Elecraft] Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 8:37 PM H, I wonder why one of you guys