Re: [Elecraft] OT; electrical safety

2017-04-17 Thread Richard Fjeld
Maybe this applies. We have buried electrical service, but I don't think it matters. I have been told the NEC now calls for four conductor service to include a ground wire from the transformer. I depend on a ground tree. I like the perimeter wire Don, w3fpr describes. Dick, n0ce On

Re: [Elecraft] OT; electrical safety

2017-04-17 Thread Clay Autery
That description appears to contain several NEC violations... __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 4/17/2017 4:40 PM, Mark via Elecraft wrote: > Re: I could see no wires going in to the ground. > > They really hide them these days. I watched my house

Re: [Elecraft] OT; electrical safety

2017-04-17 Thread Fred Jensen
You probably have a "UFER" ground, named for Herbert Ufer who came up with the idea of encasing the ground electrode in concrete to protect ordnance storage compartments during WW2, often in the southwestern US with very poor soil conductivity. In the latter 60's, the NEC permitted it unless

Re: [Elecraft] OT; electrical safety

2017-04-17 Thread Mark via Elecraft
Re:   I could see no wires going in to the ground. They really hide them these days.  I watched my house being built and noticed that just below the service box, they passed the ground wire from the inside of the wall to the outside, and then down to the ground rod.  Since the wall was then

Re: [Elecraft] OT; electrical safety

2017-04-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Knut, When I built my house in 2001, only one ground rod at the utility entry point was required. We built a house next door in 2009, and two ground rods separated by 6 feet was required. So sometime between those two dates the NEC requirements changed. None-the-less, I have a perimeter

Re: [Elecraft] OT; electrical safety

2017-04-17 Thread Bill Johnson
;elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT; electrical safety I'm guessing you and your neighbors have grounding via a basement slab Ufer. 73 jim ab3cv On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 5:00 PM, ab2tc <ab...@arrl.net> wrote: > Hi, > > This is totally off topic; I apologize. >

Re: [Elecraft] OT; electrical safety

2017-04-17 Thread Matt Zilmer
Most house grounds are just a piece of re-bar hammered into the soil, andthis is done before the foundation is poured around it. Ours is barely visible except for the big chair clamp that secures the bare #8 wire to it. I've seen it other ways too, for example in the upper midwest. The ground

Re: [Elecraft] OT; electrical safety

2017-04-17 Thread Jim Miller
I'm guessing you and your neighbors have grounding via a basement slab Ufer. 73 jim ab3cv On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 5:00 PM, ab2tc wrote: > Hi, > > This is totally off topic; I apologize. > > I just received the new ARRL publication "grounding and bonding for the > radio

[Elecraft] OT; electrical safety

2017-04-17 Thread ab2tc
Hi, This is totally off topic; I apologize. I just received the new ARRL publication "grounding and bonding for the radio amateur". It is very interesting reading. I see that the NEC requires two ground rods for regular power installations; never mind any antennas. I swear that when when I