Re: [Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-08 Thread Roger D Johnson
I think very few hams could afford the KWM-2. I'll give Collins the credit for the innovation but I think the Heath SB series had a much bigger influence on the average ham. 73, Roger (former owner of the SB-101) On 2/7/2015 10:09 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I'm working on my 62nd year as a ham

[Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-07 Thread GDR
CW Skimmer is a form of crutch. Us old timers still do it the old way, tune around and listen closely, but keep an eye on the P3 display. Love that thing! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-07 Thread Bob
Well, yes but the P3 can also be considered a crutch too. It all depends on where the crutch/aid line is placed. 1st split capable RX-TX was Heath SB300-SB400 pair. Confession time... Have but after initial fascination with it do not use CW Skimmer but rely a lot on the P3. Is having the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-07 Thread Fred Jensen
I'm working on my 62nd year as a ham and looking back at the history I've experienced, I think I would credit the KWM-2 as the turning point in the adoption of SSB over AM. Not that the all the masses could afford it [in todays dollars, I think it cost around $10K], and there had been the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-07 Thread Fred Jensen
U ... I think Art Collins might have beat Heath to that with the KWM-2 and external VFO, sometime around 1959, followed by the S-Line. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 2/7/2015 11:55 AM, Bob

Re: [Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-07 Thread Bob
Hi Fred, Was the 1st for me. Heath SB's were the poor mans Collins and Collins had a lot of innovations. 73, Bob K2TK On 2/7/2015 4:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: U ... I think Art Collins might have beat Heath to that with the KWM-2 and external VFO, sometime around 1959, followed

Re: [Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-06 Thread Vic Rosenthal
It's not about copying CW. It's about spotting the guy a dx station is working in a 30 kHz wide pileup when a hundred other guys are calling out of turn. A human can only copy a few calls within a few kHz at the same time, while the skimmer can get all of them. Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO On Feb 6,

Re: [Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
While CW Skimmer may be about spotting the guy calling ... CW Get and/or the CW text decode capability in the K3 are *certainly not* about spotting the calling station in the pile-up. Their only purpose is as a crutch for those who are either unable due to hearing loss or too lazy to learn to

Re: [Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-06 Thread Phil Hystad
I will add my two-bit opinion. CW text decode as a crutch when copying by ear also is a big negative. Whenever I am using CW Decode, my own copying by ear performance drops a bit because too much leaning and dependence on the CW decode display for my translation. I say -- if you are learning

[Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-06 Thread Ken G Kopp
Of course there's the option of learning to copy CW .. (; -) 73 Ken - K0PP On Feb 6, 2015 8:57 AM, Tom Blahovici tom...@videotron.ca wrote: Yes CW skimmer works great. One caveat though with listening on vfo b. Many people use the built in decoding of cw on the k3 or use software such

Re: [Elecraft] OT: CW Skimmer

2015-02-06 Thread mike
It is less about copying code and more about spotting, Ken. ;) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-CW-Skimmer-tp7597973p7597975.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __