Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna

2018-12-09 Thread Martin Sole
Made me laugh. I guess Reg had other designs :) Martin, HS0ZED On 09/12/2018 23:44, CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: Sorry, I said Reg, should have said Louis David G3UNA On 09 December 2018 at 16:30 CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft wrote: In addition, Reg was designing in the era of valve

Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna

2018-12-09 Thread Bill Frantz
I kinda like my 160M coax fed half wave dipole. I can get something out of it on all bands with the K3 tuner, although 80M is very marginal. I have a couple of FT8 QSOs with Quebec on 6M using it, although the azimuth pattern looks like a porcupine. However, for most purposes, my 8 band

Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna

2018-12-09 Thread Doug Person
I experimented with a G5RV. I did not have worth while results. A simple dipole with a quality current balun easily outperformed it. I also tried the "Mystery Antenna" - a joke. Measurements were down to a millimeter. It was up for an hour then was scrapped. I did have "acceptable" results

Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna

2018-12-09 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
From my experience, more folks should pay attention to the antenna and balun work done by DJ0IP.    They would likely have better performing antennas.  His work is proven on antennas and not text book or computer models, but indeed he provides real world results. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 12/9/2018

Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna

2018-12-09 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft
Sorry, I said Reg, should have said Louis David G3UNA > On 09 December 2018 at 16:30 CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft > wrote: > > > In addition, Reg was designing in the era of valve output transmitters with > built-in pi-tank matching system, so, it was possible to match on different > bands.

Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna

2018-12-09 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft
In addition, Reg was designing in the era of valve output transmitters with built-in pi-tank matching system, so, it was possible to match on different bands. I'm sure mine worked across 80 to 10m in those days. For 80 to 10m these days I use a off-centre-fed dipole with hybrid

[Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna PLOTS

2018-12-09 Thread Jan
Here is a nice discussion (link below) on the G5RV ~ Tnx, Jaro OK1CJB including current distribution and radiation plots for various bands Regards, Jan K1ND

[Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna

2018-12-08 Thread Rose
Don is of course correct in his reference to the antenna actually being an "extended double zepp" using the dimensions in my example. 73 ! K0PP On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 15:15 Don Wilhelm Ken and all, > > More correctly if the terminology of hams is to be deemed correct, it is > a "Double

Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna

2018-12-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ken and all, More correctly if the terminology of hams is to be deemed correct, it is a "Double Extended Zepp". The radiator each side of center is 5/8 wavelength long (at 20 meters). The 32' 300 ohm ladder line is for impedance transformation. It does provide some broadside gain on 20

[Elecraft] OT: G5RV antenna

2018-12-08 Thread Ken G Kopp
As I've already stated … I have a copy of the original Varney RSGB article that describes the G5RV and plainly states that it's a 20M only antenna. Remember, it requires an antenna tuner … Start with a dipole … Keep the "magic" 32' length of 300 ohm feedline. Delete the 68' of coax. What's

Re: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-19 Thread David Cutter
Back in those days most of my friends did not even own an swr meter, we tuned up by dipping and loading and worked out the power input to the PA to meet the regulations. In later life LV preferred to speak of the ASTU Antenna System Matching Unit. I prefer to use MU for the box in the

Re: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-19 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
In an issue of Radcom published between 1999 and 2006, which I shall have to find, IIRC there is some comment on the the G5RV with references. If I remember correctly Captain Varney G5RV first published the design in the 1940s, could well have been in 1946, and the antenna was intended to be

Re: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-18 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 5/17/07 1:53:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim, the original G5RV is a 1-1/2 wave 20 meter *only* antenna that offered a good match for the coaxial line by using an open-wire matching section. As you know, such matching sections are

[Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna article

2007-05-18 Thread Ken Kopp
I do hamfest and convention antenna talks and have a large file of assorted antenna info. I believe I have G5RV's article in a file, but it's at home in Montana and I'm in Oregon. My wife and I are hosts at a lighthouse on the coast and will return home in a few weeks.vvIf you haven't found

RE: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-18 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
From what I can discover, Captain Varney, G5RV, published his antenna design in England in 1946. I was referencing the comments made about it by John D Heys, G3BDQ, in his book Practical Wire Antennas. You are quite right! It seems like everyone who find an article by Captain Varney thought

[Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna article

2007-05-18 Thread Ken Kopp
I -think- I have a copy of the original article, but I can't be certain until I get back home to Monatna in a month. I'm a magazine and Handbook collector ... have (almost) all of QST, all of CQ, 73, HR, Hr Horizons, etc. Been gathering for 56 years. (;-) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL

Re: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-17 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 5/16/07 10:17:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have G5RV's original article introducing the antenna. He specifically states that it is a 20M antenna, and yet it's now somehow become a do-all-bands wonder ... an almost cult thing. In all the G5RV

RE: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-17 Thread Brett gazdzinski
What many do is put up as much wire as possible, then take the feedline down to a remote balanced tuner in a dog house, then run coax or hardline to the shack. That is the best setup for high power AM multi band work I suspect. Running AM, you have to derate everything like baluns and traps to

Re: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-17 Thread David Cutter
@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns What many do is put up as much wire as possible, then take the feedline down to a remote balanced tuner in a dog house, then run coax or hardline to the shack. That is the best setup for high power AM

RE: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-17 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Jim, the original G5RV is a 1-1/2 wave 20 meter *only* antenna that offered a good match for the coaxial line by using an open-wire matching section. As you know, such matching sections are frequency-dependent, like any fixed tuned matching network. The G5RV allowed the use of the newly-available

Re: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-17 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 5/17/07 11:47:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 5RV will only provide the correct match transformation at a specific height and in a straight line. If the ends droop the impedances are wrong and the match between the balanced line and the coax

[Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-16 Thread Ken Kopp
K5KVH sums it up in his opening paragraph ... I have G5RV's original article introducing the antenna. He specifically states that it is a 20M antenna, and yet it's now somehow become a do-all-bands wonder ... an almost cult thing. The same thing happened with the single-wire fed Windom years

RE: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns

2007-05-16 Thread Brett gazdzinski
Kopp Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:16 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] OT - G5RV antenna baluns K5KVH sums it up in his opening paragraph ... I have G5RV's original article introducing the antenna. He specifically states that it is a 20M antenna, and yet it's now