Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-13 Thread Robert Allbright
That's the best way Kev 73 Rob G3RCE On Jun 12, 2017 1:19 PM, "Kevin - K4VD" wrote: ​I learned code by memorizing 5 wpm and then getting on the air and having as many contacts as I could. Nothing fancy, no coddling. Just do it. 73, Kev ​

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Jim, No need to apologize. All of the thread's posts are good info - We just try to keep the volume of responses to OT threads down to 5-10 to keep list email volume under control for our other readers. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 6/13/2017 9:34 AM, Jim Sr Sturges wrote: My apologies for

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-13 Thread Jim Sr Sturges
My apologies for opening what became an overwhelmingly nice, polite, friendly, and educational thread for me and perhaps a few others. This is a place where exposing ignorance is rewarded with gold-plated knowledge and bonhomie. I'm not really sorry but good form dictates that response. My replies

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
In the interest of releiving email overload for our readers, lets close this OT thread at this time. Its well past the single day posting limit. 73, Eric List Moderator /elecraft.com/ On 6/12/2017 9:14 PM, Doug Smith wrote: I was one of the last Radio Officers to sail an all CW ship. It

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Doug Smith
I was one of the last Radio Officers to sail an all CW ship. It was the SS Tampa Bay, call sign KNJA. We worked our way up and down the South American coasts from ports in the US gulf coast. I mainly worked WLO on 16 and 22 MHz. We typically hummed along around 30 WPM due to the requirement

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Richard Fjeld
com<mailto:f...@fmeco.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew In military and commercial brass pounding in the USA, we were limited to something between 13 and 20 wpm, usually closer to 13, because long studies

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Clay Autery
Looking forward to starting the academy in the fall. :) __ Clay Autery, KY5G On 6/12/2017 6:33 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote > But Amateur Radio is a whole different world with different skills being > most useful, skills such as head copy at 20 or 30 wpm. I enjoy "reading the

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
17 11:31 AM To: f...@fmeco.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew One caveat, Fred . . . Traffic handlers MUST copy on paper or on a word processor. In my opinion, one is not a skilled telegrapher until one can copy in head and on paper with equal accuracy.

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread KENT TRIMBLE
One caveat, Fred . . . Traffic handlers MUST copy on paper or on a word processor. In my opinion, one is not a skilled telegrapher until one can copy in head and on paper with equal accuracy. 73, Kent K9ZTV On 6/12/2017 11:59 AM, Fred Moore wrote: the moral... put down the pencil and

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread KENT TRIMBLE
Doug . . . This is a super-great story! You need to send it to QST for its "letters to the editor" page. 73, Kent K9ZTV On 6/12/2017 12:03 PM, Doug Smith wrote: I agree about getting on the air. And, about the value of the old Novice class in providing a “safe harbor”. When I got my

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Doug Smith
I agree about getting on the air. And, about the value of the old Novice class in providing a “safe harbor”. When I got my novice ticket I went out and bought crystals for various frequencies on 80, 40 and 15 meters. Frequencies were random and I had three on 80 meters — 3713, 3723 and 3741.

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Fred Moore
I am convinced that the barrier most folks have is from bad habits that allow you to unconsciously learn double and triple conversion in your head. when you are slow.. hear the sound, count the elements, determine what it means, then convert to writing.. I am 100% convinced that doing anything

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Keith Hutt
@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew I think there are three factors necessary to learning CW. All are important and they are: 1. Desire 2. Patience 3. Persistence There is no other easy or quick way to achieve your goal. Marv KG7V K3S, KPA500, KANT3m P3 --- This email

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Bill Brooks
Amen, Kent. Bill, KE5OG On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:43 AM, KENT TRIMBLE wrote: > I thoroughly agree with Kev about "getting on the air." > > I teach two and sometimes three Morse Code classes every Saturday > morning. The students all KNOW the code. They can accurately copy

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread KENT TRIMBLE
I thoroughly agree with Kev about "getting on the air." I teach two and sometimes three Morse Code classes every Saturday morning. The students all KNOW the code. They can accurately copy 10 WPM and above, and can send quite decently. But no matter how much I encourage, cajole, or

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread wb6rse1
Farnsworth. http://www.justlearnmorsecode.com/farnsworth.html 73 - Steve WB6RSE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Jim Allen
One approach is to expand one's vocabulary. You recognize CQ at almost any speed, because it is so familiar, as well as most "Q" signals, RST, BT, BK, etc. Hardly anyone needs to copy 5 letter groups these days like we did as Navy radiomen. One fellow has provided this:

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Kevin - K4VD
Hello Scott. Out of all that you only quote the word coddling? I didn't say anything about how someone else should learn Morse code (other than maybe Just do it). I said how I learned it. Nothing fancy, nose to the grindstone, learn by doing. It's just Morse code. It is not a new language. It is a

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Marvin Wheeler
I think there are three factors necessary to learning CW. All are important and they are: 1. Desire 2. Patience 3. Persistence There is no other easy or quick way to achieve your goal. Marv KG7V K3S, KPA500, KANT3m P3 --- This email has been checked for

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Scott Manthe
How in the world is someone learning something in a way that most suits them "coddling?" People learn things differently, even Morse. Finding the way that best suits someone is not coddling them, it's helping them to learn efficiently. Scott N9AA On 6/12/17 8:18 AM, Kevin - K4VD wrote: ​I

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Kevin - K4VD
​I learned code by memorizing 5 wpm and then getting on the air and having as many contacts as I could. Nothing fancy, no coddling. Just do it. 73, Kev ​ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
Without going into too much detail (or extending this OT thread too much!), the way to get over the sub-12 wpm "hump" is to learn to copy short words and combinations of letters ("ing" "the" "out" etc.) as a unit, and not one character at a time. One way to practice this is to use the

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Rick M0LEP
I only allowed myself to buy my KX3 after I'd completed a number of CW QSOs. I stumbled through most of them, but I confidently expected the KX3 would provide me with an incentive to improve my Morse, and I'd get better at it quite quickly. It didn't quite work out that way, though. I've had

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-12 Thread Erik Basilier
] On Behalf Of dgb Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:37 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew Yes, the best is http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73 Dwight NS9I On 6/11/2017 5:25 PM, Jim Sr Sturges wrote: > I think I learned code all wrong. Can't ever seem to

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-11 Thread Rod Hardman(VA3ON)
Jim I'll endorse your experience with the installation PAE's excellent heatsink for the KX2. I jumped into that operation with a Swiss Army knife and a set of forceps at the hotel while at Dayton hamvention. Holding on the two washers, nut and bolt simultaneously in a confined space is

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Sr Sturges Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 3:25 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew I think I learned code all wrong. Can't ever seem to get my speed up. Surely some of

Re: [Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-11 Thread dgb
Yes, the best is http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73 Dwight NS9I On 6/11/2017 5:25 PM, Jim Sr Sturges wrote: I think I learned code all wrong. Can't ever seem to get my speed up. Surely some of the astute among you _know_ The Perfect Method, and I hope you will share? To complete the

[Elecraft] OT Learning Morse anew

2017-06-11 Thread Jim Sr Sturges
I think I learned code all wrong. Can't ever seem to get my speed up. Surely some of the astute among you _know_ The Perfect Method, and I hope you will share? To complete the OT-ness of this msg, I recently completed the QRP Labs Ultimate WSPR/QRSS kit and re-learned the joys of soldering iron