Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-15 Thread Paul
"envoromentally friendly solvent" you obvoiusly haven't seen the facts at http://www.dhmo.org/ :- ) >> I ask this in all seriousness; and with no disrespect. But am I >> missing something here? Why would folks use this stuff if it's such a >> pain in the butt? > > I believe that it's norm

[Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Jim Harris
Hi, the following are some thoughts that may explain and perhaps help. Looks like what is being referred to is "water soluble flux." It's primary use is in the mass production of PC boards on commercial wave soldering machines. Discrete components are first either manually place/inserted or pic

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Sandy
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder | Hi | | This sounds like water soluble flux. This stuff needs to be cleaned off as | soon as possible or it will cause corrosion. Normally is is cleaned in | distilled water in a special washing machine. I would su

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Lyle Johnson
I ask this in all seriousness; and with no disrespect. But am I missing something here? Why would folks use this stuff if it's such a pain in the butt? I believe that it's normally used with automated soldering equipment, and the boards are washed in a hot water bath after soldering. I pre

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Don Brown
- From: "W0YG, Charlie Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder > John: > > Sorry to hear of your problem when your project went along so well. Gary > recomme

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Vic Rosenthal
Larry Makoski W2LJ wrote: I ask this in all seriousness; and with no disrespect. But am I missing something here? Why would folks use this stuff if it's such a pain in the butt? I believe that it's normally used with automated soldering equipment, and the boards are washed in a hot water b

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread David A.Belsley
Lyle: As a matter of interest, what are the possible advantages of such a solder that would warrant such special, unusual, and awkward attention? thanks, dave, w1euy On May 14, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote: First of all, you are correct, it is corrosion. I have used plenty of

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ
Lyle, I ask this in all seriousness; and with no disrespect. But am I missing something here? Why would folks use this stuff if it's such a pain in the butt? 73 de Larry W2LJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be

RE: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
John Bonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 2:42 PM To: 'Ron D'Eau Claire'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder Ron, I'll try to find the page I reference, but it definitely said water-soluble. I can see the residue on t

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread W0YG, Charlie Summers
John: Sorry to hear of your problem when your project went along so well. Gary recommended to me to use Acetone to clean off solder resin. You might try that to see if it cuts the apparent tarnish. Sounds like you might have to redo every solder joint on the RF board after removing as much

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Lyle Johnson
First of all, you are correct, it is corrosion. I have used plenty of Kester Organic Core Solder, Flux 331. I still use it a lot. The rules I follow are: 1) note the time the first solder joint is made. 2) not more than 1 hour later I take the work in progress to the sink and run lots of ho

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread David F. Reed
Folks; It would seem to me to not be from rosin or resin core solder; if it is corrosion, it sounds more like acid core solder; perhaps it was mislabeled. The term organic unfortunately is frequently misused; all hydrocarbons are organic right? Water soluble? I assume the flux, as in wash a

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread AD5MA -- Al Cuevas
"John Bonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Ron D'Eau Claire'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder > Ron, > > I'll try to find the page I reference, but it definitely said wat

RE: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread John Bonk
y, May 14, 2005 2:07 PM To: John Bonk; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder I would think you could use a good solder sucker and suck all the bad solder off the board. Then re-do all joints with the correct solder. Are you sure it's really corrosion?

RE: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread John Bonk
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 2:05 PM To: 'John Bonk'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder Wow Joe!!! Rosin is extracted from tree sap - Pine trees mostly. It's "organic" and wa

RE: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
John, I am so sorry to hear of your incident - I don't know how successful you would be, it will depend on the extent of the corrosion spread, but a scrub with a fine wire brush and alcohol mmight take the remaining corrosive stuff away, but there still is a chance that there will always be some r

Re: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Jim W7RY
I would think you could use a good solder sucker and suck all the bad solder off the board. Then re-do all joints with the correct solder. Are you sure it's really corrosion? Seems odd that the solder would corrode. Solder is for soldering brass, silver, copper, tin and etc... Why would it c

RE: [Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Wow Joe!!! Rosin is extracted from tree sap - Pine trees mostly. It's "organic" and water soluble by definition. The "water soluble" doesn't refer to the solder, only the rosin. Something else happened to your K2 besides using an "organic" core solder. Maybe accidentally using an acid flux ins

[Elecraft] Organic Rosin Core Solder

2005-05-14 Thread John Bonk
Just a friendly warning to those who may not know the exact origin of their solder. I used a Kester solder that was labeled "organic rosin core" on my K2 (only 75% of the RF board) while I was waiting for a re-supply order to come in. Fast forward one week: Minus one sloppy joint, my K2 fi