Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-03 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:28:12 -0500, Matt Palmer wrote: I've been thinking of building one of these to play with, do you have any ideas on how to stress relieve the point where you solder the wire to the coax? This seems to be the weak link in the chain. I use the inexpensive dipole insulator sold

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-03 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:53:19 -, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Yes, I take your point. It is the fine tweaking of phase that I find easier to do with a capacitor!! Please tell me how you would do that with this antenna! :) The tweaking involved requires nothing more than looking at my

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Jim Brown On Tuesday, March 03, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jim Brown wrote. On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:53:19 -, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Yes, I take your point. It is the fine tweaking of phase that I find easier to do with a capacitor!! Please tell me how you would do that with this

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed [Thread ends by 2130 UTC.]

2009-03-03 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Let's wrap up this discussion in the next 2 of hours. (2130 UTC) There have been 26 posts in the last 24 hrs on this, which is hitting the overload threshold ;-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator --- __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Randy Cook
I am using the 40m EndzFed at my QTH. It slopes from 10 ft outside my shack to 40 ft up into a redwood tree. I do not have a lot configuration for a decent 40M dipole. Although not recommended by PAR, I have worked stations on 60 and 80 meters with it using the K3 autotuner. I cannot

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread K4IA
I have used a PAR end fed with my K1 at the beach. I feed it at the top and run it from the condo balcony down at a slope to somewhere I can tie it off where no one will run into it. It works very well - better than an Outback vertical attached to the balcony. So far, no one has

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread W5CEM
I used a 10/20/40 last year at FD with good results. Usually if I could hear 'em, I could work 'em was true, with the QRP caveat. Top about 35ft. in the air, bottom just a few feet off the ground. This was before I had my K3, but used the T1 with my FT817 and even used it on six meters for a few

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim
, 2009 1:16 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed I am using the 40m EndzFed at my QTH. It slopes from 10 ft outside my shack to 40 ft up into a redwood tree. I do not have a lot configuration for a decent 40M dipole. Although not recommended by PAR, I have

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Tom McCulloch
Chuck If your antenna is over salt water (even if that water in under the sand which is under your operating position) you are going to be a VERY happy ham. ANYTHING strung up of salt water will give absolutely fantastic results! Have fun with the PAR or anything else you use under those

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:16:27 -0800, Randy Cook wrote: HOW MANY OF YOU ARE USING PAR ELECTRONICS END FEDS This is a VERY easy antenna to build. Why would anyone want to buy what they can build in an hour for a fraction of the cost? See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/NCDXACoaxChokesPPT.pdf One

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread J.H. de Wit
Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed I used a 10/20/40 last year at FD with good results. Usually if I could hear 'em, I could work 'em was true, with the QRP caveat. Top about 35ft. in the air, bottom just a few feet off the ground. This was before I had my K3, but used the T1 with my FT817

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:16:27 -0800, Randy Cook wrote: HOW MANY OF YOU ARE USING PAR ELECTRONICS END FEDS This is a VERY easy antenna to build. Why would anyone want to buy what they can build in an hour for a fraction of the cost

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread David Gilbert
Hi, Jim. I had thought about that concept years ago when I was doing more casual QRP portable operation (camping, Flight of the Bumblebee-type stuff, etc), but I never tried it because I just assumed that the impedance at the end of a dipole (i.e., where the choke would be on the coax) was

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Dave-K7DAA
For those that may be newer on the list that would like to see an example of a good homebrew 1/2 wave end fed setup, here's a good one (with pictures and schematic) on the QRP ARCI site. It was posted by Steve Yates, AA5TB: http://www.qrparci.org/content/view/59/55/ I've used a slight

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
Ron, A few quibbles with your analysis. First, the antenna that I have described is a simple half wave dipole, fed at a current maxima. The only tricky part is the power rating of the choke that serves as the end insulator. My choke is NOT a matching element, it an end insulator! Second,

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Jim Brown wrote on Monday, March 02, 2009, at 11:09 PM: A few quibbles with your analysis. First, the antenna that I have described is a simple half wave dipole, fed at a current maxima. The only tricky part is the power rating of the choke that serves as the end insulator. My choke is

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
Have you been able to verify that a simple choke really blocks the shield current there? Yes, it works -- IF the choke has a sufficiently high impedance. Or am I misunderstanding something? No. You can see another way to do this on N6LF's website. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:15:04 -, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: If a resonant trap is placed at the bottom end instead of a choke as an insulator, A coaxial choke wound on a ferrite core IS a parallel resonant circuit. Properly done, the choke should be wound to place the resonant

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Jim Brown wrote on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 at 12:59 AM A coaxial choke wound on a ferrite core IS a parallel resonant circuit. Properly done, the choke should be wound to place the resonant frequency where the antenna will be operated! Study the references I cited in the earlier post. Yes,

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Folks, I fail to see the advantage of constructing an end fed dipole with coax for half of the antenna - it requires a choke that has a parallel resonant frequency equal to the operating frequency, and the overall length is a half wavelength. I believe it is much easier to construct a half

Re: [Elecraft] PAR endz-fed

2009-03-02 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:48:03 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote: I fail to see the advantage of constructing an end fed dipole with coax for half of the antenna The advantage is if it solves a particular rigging problem that you encounter. 73, Jim K9YC