Re: [Elecraft] Prosign Confusion

2006-01-13 Thread Sam Binkley
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I learnt my morse procedures with the Royal Navy. = I had occasion to work some of the Royal Navy operators back in the 60s. One in particular, aboard HMS Tartar/GHGC, was one of the best traffic handlers I ever

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Darwin, Keith
Ron AC7AC Said: -- This is a list of the prosigns I'm familiar with: BK - Invite receiving station to transmit CQ - Calling any amateur radio station SOS Distress Hold on a second (AS) there Ron :-) My understanding is that BK, CQ and SOS are

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Morrow
Kieth wrote: Hold on a second (AS) there Ron :-) My understanding is that BK, CQ and SOS are not to be sent with no space but as individual letters complete with the proper space around them. There's the **biggest** mistake in Morse telegraphy! SOS is ALWAYS to be sent with NO space between

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread n2ey
-Original Message- From: Mike Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:49:34 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse) As for BK, that is two

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion

2006-01-12 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
I looked up the W1AW schedule so I'll know when to find them again. It's much better, in my opinion, than tapes or computer- generated stuff, because it's 'real', over the air. The computer stuff and tapes always seemed to me to be too sterile, too perfect. Perhaps too boring and

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion

2006-01-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Good suggestions, but how about just turning on the rig and reading the mail for a while for some experience of real fists? If you're just listening, no one cares if you miss characters as you build proficiency... Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I looked up the W1AW schedule so I'll know

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread n2ey
-Original Message- From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Elecraft Discussion List' elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:37:44 -0800 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse) One might ask what is CQ an abbreviation of? Some say it's

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Jim, N2EY wrote: (CQ is) a two-letter abbreviation like QRZ. -- But neither of them are abbreviations (i.e. shortened words). CQ has no credible meaning as an abbreviation that I've ever seen. QRZ is one of the common Q codes that are sent as three distinct letters. The

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Nigel, G8IFF/KC8NHF wrote: If CQ is a prosign, i.e. a single character without embedded space, please explain how I should pronounce it such using 'phone modes. - Dah-di-dah-di-dah-dah-di-dah? Seriously, once you go to non-CW modes, all bets are off.

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Folks, I think we are all getting mixed mesages here - when to use a letter space, and when not to is the question. I checked the table in my 1994 ARRL Handbook for CW abbreviations and prosigns (the new handbooks have eliminated this info for some reason!). Earlier handbooks just listed the

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
-Original Message- The 'prosigns' listed in 1994 are: QRL?, CQ, AR, K, KN, BK, R, AS, SK, and CL - but the only ones indicated to be sent without a space (as one character) are AR, KN, AS, and SK - all others are indicated as being sent as 2 or more letters (indicated with a bar).

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 1/12/06 1:18:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim, N2EY wrote: (CQ is) a two-letter abbreviation like QRZ. -- But neither of them are abbreviations (i.e. shortened words). An abbreviation isn't always a shortened word

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-12 Thread K3yt
Hi, the lb for pound comes from Spanish(and its close Latin)libra meaning pound. 73 de Bob K3YT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub

[Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata))

2006-01-11 Thread Stephanie Maks
I don't think I ever got the hang of the prosigns... I got the AR. To me, BT is a dash (-) but I don't know if that's correct or not. I sometimes get the ',' and '?' confused. The / character I know well, because I always hear it on our local repeater ident, and it it's in my beacon's

Re: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion

2006-01-11 Thread Vic K2VCO
Stephanie Maks wrote: Isn't ES the same as 'h'? Or am I completely lost? ES isn't a prosign, like AR, SK, BT, etc. It's a two letter abbreviation for 'and'. So there's a letter space between the E and he S. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Stephanie, VA3UXB wrote: I don't think I ever got the hang of the prosigns... I got the AR. To me, BT is a dash (-) but I don't know if that's correct or not. I sometimes get the ',' and '?' confused. The / character I know well, because I always hear it on our local repeater ident, and

RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
David G4DMP wrote: I don't know that one, Ron; we don't have Euros in the UK ;-) But don't forget the new one for @ for use in e-mail addresses @di-dah-dah-di-dah-dit - Yeah, that's what started the thread so I left it out. It's also the easiest