Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-24 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Gentlemen, This thread was formally closed by the moderator several days ago. Please do not post amateur radio policy critiques, comments etc here. End of Thread. 73, Eric List Modulator elecraft.com _..._ On Jun 23, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft

[Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread jsdroyster
Perhaps others like me are unaware of this proposed FCC rule that would allow digital communication modes 2.8 kHz in width to be used robotically in the CW and data sub-bands without regard to interference. ARRL supports this and evidently initiated it.

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Sam Carson
This is not the place for this. Eric take note please Sam Carson K4soc -Original Message- From: jsdroys...@nc.rr.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:13 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes Perhaps others like me

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Jerome Sodus
: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of jsdroys...@nc.rr.com Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 9:14 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes Perhaps others like me are unaware of this proposed FCC rule that would allow

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Sandy Blaize
think my comments on RM-11708 went thru. This is very serious to ANYONE who wants to retain narrow band digital communications like JT9 and PSK31 and RTTY!! Also to CW Dxers and contesters! If this passes, it will change amateur radio as we have known it forever. There will be no weak

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread KQ8M
AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes think my comments on RM-11708 went thru. This is very serious to ANYONE who wants to retain narrow band digital communications like JT9 and PSK31 and RTTY!! Also to CW Dxers

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Walter Underwood
Five days ago (6/18), Eric declared this off topic and asked the discussion to end. This was his post. Folks - please take this thread off list immediately. In general, please do notdiscuss amateur policy issues here. That is a deep rabbit hole that can and will generate voluminous OT traffic.

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread David G4DMP
Thank you, Walter. I was about to suggest to Eric that he seriously consider appointing a deputy moderator to keep the reflector in check when he is not around. It is good to see that you have volunteered for the job. Keep up the good work. There is far too much off-topic stuff on here so

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Mike Harris
Indeed it does, not just the USA. I hope the IARU is making appropriate noise. Regards, Mike VP8NO On 23/06/2014 12:23, KQ8M wrote: BTW, this affects ALL amateurs so this crosses in to the on topic line. __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
More to the point, if we don't keep the list clean, I'm sure it could be a true moderated list with the flip of a switch. If that happened, a moderator would have to approve all posts before they go out to the list -- and that slows the tempo way down. -- Lynn On 6/23/2014 8:54 AM, David

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Your argument is basically free speech vs. the wishes of the forum owner. The list owner has observed that any post on amateur radio politics is going to generate a lot of traffic and is inevitably controversial. Since the purpose of the list is to discuss Elecraft products, and not amateur

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Rick Bates, WA6NHC
The First Amendment stops the government (in the US) from interfering with free expression. This list is not owned by the government; the amendment doesn't apply. Let's move on please. Rick, WA6NHC iPad = small keypad = typos = sorry ;-) On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread David Cole
OMG This is forking into a constitutional discussion... N -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see:

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread mcduffie
If this comes to fruition there will be a mass exodus of regular hams and this will affect not only Elecraft but all ham radio manufacturers Which means it is off topic for this ELECRAFT related forum. Take it to some wider forum and have at it. Gary

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Gary Gregory
Good grief folks. No more 2 cents worth please...even I get it! End of thread...I hope.. Gary On 24 June 2014 08:17, mcduf...@ag0n.net wrote: If this comes to fruition there will be a mass exodus of regular hams and this will affect not only Elecraft but all ham radio manufacturers

Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

2014-06-23 Thread Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft
No more 2 cents worth please.. Who said Ham Radio Operators are CHEAP? ;-) 73 Milverton / W9MMS. On Monday, June 23, 2014 6:57 PM, Gary Gregory vk1zzg...@gmail.com wrote: Good grief folks. No more 2 cents worth please...even I get it! End of thread...I hope.. Gary On 24