Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-26 Thread Mark Goldberg
h.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark Goldberg > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 6:20 PM > To: Elecraft Mailing List <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: > trim > before or after sold

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread N2TK, Tony
ubject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? For commercial products, there is IPC-610. That is 400+ pages of descriptions of how to determine acceptability of and build electronic assemblies. It has very clear explanations and lots of pi

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread Mark Goldberg
For commercial products, there is IPC-610. That is 400+ pages of descriptions of how to determine acceptability of and build electronic assemblies. It has very clear explanations and lots of pictures and diagrams of right and wrong ways to do things. Unfortunately, you may have to pay to get a

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread Charlie T
I only use "non-GMO enhanced" solder that is free-ranged. Also, only natural lead & pure tin mined by hand without polluting equipment is used with rosin (flux) from contented pine trees that have at least one wild endangered species bird nest in it. 73, Charlie k3ICH

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread Bill Johnson
arrerfo...@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 4:35 PM To: Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? I do also carefully reflow.. Don't what any popping

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread Mel Farrer via Elecraft
2018 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? I populate, solder, cut, re-solder.  72 & 73, Bill K9YEQ FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mail

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread Bill Johnson
es j jr <c-haw...@illinois.edu> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; JEROME SODUS <jso...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? And trimming before soldering allows the exposed copper “end” of the lead to be c

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread Nr4c
y, March 24, 2018 10:40 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim > before or after soldering? > > About Message#15 copied below > > Sorry but cutting wires after soldering is "bad practice";

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread N2TK, Tony
hanks for the great discussion! '73 de JIM N2ZZ -Original Message- From: N2TK, Tony [mailto:tony@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:58 PM To: 'Doug Renwick'; 'James F. Boehner MD'; 'JEROME SODUS'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation tec

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread David Gilbert
I've soldered a LOT of components to circuit boards and I've always cut the leads prior to soldering. I insert the component and flip the board over to see which direction the runs go from the lead.  I bend the lead in the direction of the run, which serves the purpose of holding the

[Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft
on! '73 de JIM N2ZZ -Original Message- From: N2TK, Tony [mailto:tony@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:58 PM To: 'Doug Renwick'; 'James F. Boehner MD'; 'JEROME SODUS'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? About Message#15 copied below Sorry but cutting wires after soldering is "bad practice"; NASA wanted the soldered connection left undisturbed. If I ever saw an assembler or

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread N2TK, Tony
: Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:05 PM To: 'James F. Boehner MD' <jboehne...@yahoo.com>; 'JEROME SODUS' <jso...@comcast.net>; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? Heathkit recommended the "bad

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread David Olean
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of JEROME SODUS Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 11:40 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? About Message#15 copied below

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread Art Greenberg
I guess if you're building something that goes into a spacecraft or is life support equipment, you want to do everything you can to make the product as reliable as possible. In most cases, ham gear, especially hand assembled ham gear, doesn't fall into that category. Mass produced through-hole

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
I agree, the stated NASA "method" does amaze me. First, the K2 is not likely to go a space journey. Components with pre-cut leads may require 3 hands. One to hold the component, one to hold the soldering iron and another to hold the solder. I would assume that NASA directive was for

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread Doug Renwick
M3K Message: 15 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 19:39:47 + From: Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com> To: "ksto...@ac0h.net" <ksto...@ac0h.net>, 'Mark Petrovic' <mspetro...@gmail.com>, "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecra

[Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-25 Thread James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft
t, 24 Mar 2018 19:39:47 + From: Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com> To: "ksto...@ac0h.net" <ksto...@ac0h.net>, 'Mark Petrovic' <mspetro...@gmail.com>, "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor ins

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-24 Thread JEROME SODUS
> To: "ksto...@ac0h.net" <ksto...@ac0h.net>, 'Mark Petrovic' <mspetro...@gmail.com>, "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? Message-I

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Actually one of the important points in soldering with thru-hole components with plated hole boards is to watch the solder flow as you solder. You should see the solder wick down into the hole which minimizes the chances that the lead trimming process will cause a 'shock wave' that will

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-24 Thread Howie WA3MCK
When I went to “mil spec soldering school” at Sanders Associates in Nashua NH back in the 80’s we were taught to install the component and mechanically secure it BEFORE soldering. This included clipping the leads of resistors, capacitors, and so forth. Why? When you clip a component lead it

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mark, It is usual for most components to mount on the top side of the board and solder from the bottom. Splay the leads slightly to keep the components from falling out when you turn the board over. For components mounted on the bottom side of the board, I normally put them in the same

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-24 Thread Bill Johnson
' <mspetro...@gmail.com>; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? If I remember correctly they got soldered from the top side. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.ne

Re: [Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-24 Thread kstover
sistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering? While reading through my new K2 kit's control board assembly instructions, I see that some builders prefer to trim the resistor and capacitor leads before soldering. I'm intrigued by this, and wonder if someone who uses this tec

[Elecraft] Resistor and capacitor installation techniques: trim before or after soldering?

2018-03-24 Thread Mark Petrovic
While reading through my new K2 kit's control board assembly instructions, I see that some builders prefer to trim the resistor and capacitor leads before soldering. I'm intrigued by this, and wonder if someone who uses this technique can share their experiences. Do you the solder the component