Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-30 Thread Eric Swartz
Folks - This thread was closed yesterday due to its high OT volume. Please respect this closure. 73, Eric List mooderator from time to time.. ;-) *elecraft.com * On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 5:48 AM W3FLH wrote: > > Joe and the group, > A company I used to do business with

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-30 Thread SteveL
Great laugh out of this, thank you! And so true… JIT depends on so many things working, which are not now for myriads of reasons. I could barely wrap my brain around 20,000 containers on a single boat, wedged across the Suez no less - and blocking how many more?! In some ways it reveals

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-30 Thread Louandzip via Elecraft
We called it the OSWO method of inventory control.  "Oh S*** We're Out" W7HV On Friday, April 30, 2021, 6:48:13 AM MDT, W3FLH wrote: Joe and the group, A company I used to do business with had a nickname for JIT supplying. SOL. They actually had it printed on a card JIT=SOL. 73

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-30 Thread W3FLH
Joe and the group, A company I used to do business with had a nickname for JIT supplying. SOL. They actually had it printed on a card JIT=SOL. 73 Darrell AB2E To chime in on "JIT" philosophy - we have a name for it, too: Just Isn't There. It leaves no "wiggle-room" if there are any

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Christopher Hoover
This has been a problem on and off for at least five years. It is somewhat worse now than it has been recently, but it is more of the same. I had to design out the uC on Google Glass Enterprise Edition 2 (EE2) in 2018 the week before we were supposed to gerber out for our proto build. I found

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Paul GACEK via Elecraft
Staring out at the LA seashore, I see scads of ships waiting to offload in numbers I’ve never seen before. Whatever the legitimate reason for that bottleneck, it must compound the delay of possibly scarce items including commodity ICs. I think we only have one silicon foundry stateside in AZ

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Eric Swartz
[TOPIC CLOSED} Folks we are way off topic for the Elecraft list and this is also exceeding the regular off topic limits. Please end the thread at this time. 73, Eric WA6HHQ *Elecraft List moderator, when I 'm not expediting K4s out the door :-)* *elecraft.com * On Thu,

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft
Amazon has 50 piece NE555 for $5.39 ready to ship, two day delivery Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > >  > Welcome to the world of "just in time" inventory meets off shore > production. Then couple that with a Chinese Communist Party that > makes

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
I'm staying out of the politics. But clearly it'll be a banner year for the hat, T-shirt, and coffee mug makers of the world. No silicon. Wayne N6KR > On Apr 29, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: > > So sorry, but this pandemic and all the supply issues fit nicely into an > economic

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Bill Johnson
So sorry, but this pandemic and all the supply issues fit nicely into an economic war, not just a firearms war. The economic war has only just begun which I had guessed would happen just after the Japanese, then the S. Koreans now the Chinese. This is a cultural war destined to get the US

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Lou Mecseri
Elecraft group seems to be an exception. Perhaps ther are a few others. &3, Lou KE1F On 4/29/2021 22:06, Lou Mecseri wrote: JIT is a great low cost, effective system as long as it works. It did for a while. But the real issue we refuse to face is to listen to Lenin who had been quoted "The

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Lou Mecseri
JIT is a great low cost, effective system as long as it works. It did for a while. But the real issue we refuse to face is to listen to Lenin who had been quoted "The Capitalist will sell you the rope to hang him." And that is what happening, don't blame Communist China, No Far East power

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Gary K9GS
Surface mount capacitors are also in very short supply.About a month ago PCB laminate was also difficult to get.  Not sure if that is still accurate.One problem fueling the shortages is panic buying. Manufacturers placing orders far above what demand is" just in case".73,Gary K9GS

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread AB2E Darrell
Joe and the group, A company I used to do business with had a nickname for JIT supplying. SOL. They actually had it printed on a card JIT=SOL. 73 Darrell AB2E From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Thursday, April 29,

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Welcome to the world of "just in time" inventory meets off shore production. Then couple that with a Chinese Communist Party that makes sure that Chinese companies get their orders filled before the rest of the world. Then don't forget that there are not enough shipping containers to

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Gary Memory
It isn't just IC's. I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days ago. Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into September. We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for a long haul? Gary N7BRJ On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Ken B via Elecraft
Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips for the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't need them till November.   On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick wrote: Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well. Wayne

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well. Wayne elecraft.com > On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M wrote: > >  > Hi Wayne. > I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors. > The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors. > Ray WA6VAB K3 > > From: Wayne

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Ian Kahn
Wayne, I hope that stock-up includes the two K3 - K3S upgrade boards I ordered yesterday! :-) 73 de, Ian, NV4C On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 2:41 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in advance > on most parts and assemblies. > > Wayne > N6KR > > >

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Linda M
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in advance on most parts and assemblies. Wayne N6KR > On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote: > > For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time, it > is even worse, as they have no leverage.

Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Mark Goldberg
For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a time, it is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company I am working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even for simple orders from distributors of in stock parts they are taking a week to ship rather

[Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

2021-04-29 Thread Dave Cole
An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of chips... https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-macs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/ -- 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL