Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-03 Thread Alan Bloom
So the issue is that the pop on turn-on is much worse with powered speakers than passive speakers? That's exactly what you'd expect if the powered speakers have a higher input impedance. The series capacitor in the K3 output along with the load impedance forms a high-pass filter. The higher the

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-03 Thread Randy Farmer
At the risk of resurrecting the Speakers thread, my experience is that I've never been able to make any full range speaker, powered or otherwise, sound acceptable on any amateur rig. No matter what I try, I keep returning to my trusty pair of unpowered Motorola 2 way radio speakers. The Moto

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-03 Thread Fred Smith
: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients At the risk of resurrecting the Speakers thread, my experience is that I've never been able to make any full range speaker, powered or otherwise, sound acceptable on any amateur rig. No matter what I try, I keep returning to my trusty pair of unpowered Motorola 2 way

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-02 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Probably of more consequence in the powered speakers is that they all are targeted at music use on PC's. They are in tiny enclosures and have a huge bass pre-emphasis to keep them from sounding tinny. The pre-emphasis will increase with increasingly lower frequency, likely meaning that something

[Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Richard Thorpe
Is there any way to stop the tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? It can't be good to have a blast of DC go through my external speakers I jump every time this happens. K6CG __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
What tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? Never heard that myself. I use the K3 power button to turn off and on. Some folks I know turn off the power supply. Maybe that's different? Exactly how do you turn rig on and off? 73, Guy. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Richard

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Tim Tucker
My K3 thumps the powered external speakers pretty good when I turn it on/off using the power switch on the front of the rig. Tim On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote: What tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? Never heard that myself.

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Richard, Do you have the problem if you only use the internal speaker? Is your firmware up to date? 73, Mike K2MK Richard Thorpe-2 wrote Is there any way to stop the tooth rattling turn on and turn off thump from the K3? It can't be good to have a blast of DC go through my external

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Bob
I have had the same issue as K6CG. There is a thump or spike with the K3 on turn on, I also use powered external speakers, M Audio AV40's. I have a master kill switch that kills the shack with the exception of lights and clock. Turn on of the master switch and having left the accessories

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread John Ragle
Something seems wrong with your particular set-up. I have a K3/100 + P3, and it makes no audio sounds whatever when turned on or off. There is a slight relay click, but it is not particularly noticeable. John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 5/1/2012 2:31 PM, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Richard, Do you have

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Randy Farmer
My K3 also thumps with power on and off transitions. In my case, I use the SPKRS output to drive either a set of headphones (Yamaha CM-500 or Sony MDR-7650) or the inputs of an old Radio Shack SA-155 amplifier, depending on whether the headphones are plugged into my headphone box. Looking at

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Wayne Burdick
Randy Farmer wrote: My K3 also thumps with power on and off transitions This is an important part of the power-on self-test sequence. It allows you, and others, to verify even at some distance from the radio that your speaker(s), KIO3 interconnections, large electrolytic coupling

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Rob May
In other words, it's not a bug, it's a feature. :) Rob NV5E From: n...@elecraft.com To: w...@tx.rr.com Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:35:12 -0700 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients Randy Farmer wrote: My

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Phil Hystad
And, that is what I thought the K3 thump feature was all about! On May 1, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Randy Farmer wrote: My K3 also thumps with power on and off transitions This is an important part of the power-on self-test sequence. It allows you, and others, to

Re: [Elecraft] Turn on turn off transients

2012-05-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Those thumps may be bothersome for those using powered speakers, I am using unpowered speakers and while I hear ag the intensity couple of thumps at turn on and turn off, neither are offensive and bothersome. Perhaps you are increasing with your powered speakers Do your powered speakers run