Re: [Elecraft] VF Varies With Frequency

2020-04-02 Thread Vic Rosenthal
I put a shorted 1/4 wave stub — about a foot long on 144 MHz — on the coax to my 2m beam. The beam is right under my HF antenna, and thanks to the stub I can run 1.3 kW on 40-10m with absolutely no interference to the 2m rig, and no effect on 2m SWR. Before I had the stub, hitting the key on

Re: [Elecraft] VF Varies With Frequency

2020-04-01 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Mark, Whoever you talked to needs to go back to school and study Maxwell's equations. He is WRONG! http://k9yc.com/TransLines-LowFreq.pdf http://k9yc.com/Coax-Stubs.pdf 73, Jim K9YC On 4/1/2020 2:45 PM, Mpridesti wrote: Requested technical comment from a long established coaxial cable

Re: [Elecraft] VF Varies With Frequency

2020-04-01 Thread Wes
I would not be buying any cable from them. Wes  N7WS On 4/1/2020 2:45 PM, Mpridesti via Elecraft wrote: Requested technical comment from a long established coaxial cable manufacturer on this topic. This was the response: The Vp is not measured at any frequency and is independent of

Re: [Elecraft] VF Varies With Frequency

2020-04-01 Thread Clay Autery
H  I'm seeing great variability in the Vf does/does not vary with F. This link says yes: https://owenduffy.net/transmissionline/concept/mvf/index.htm Other's say no... My "gut" says yes. Yea!  Now I have something to research in order to figure out how/why! My favorite kind of

Re: [Elecraft] VF Varies With Frequency

2020-04-01 Thread John Oppenheimer
A typical, Type RG-58A Vf measurement, as a function of frequency, is shown in second plot: https://www.kn5l.net/transMeasure/ Vf is frequency dependent. John KN5L On 4/1/20 4:45 PM, Mpridesti via Elecraft wrote: > Requested technical comment from a long established coaxial cable >

Re: [Elecraft] VF Varies With Frequency

2020-04-01 Thread Mpridesti via Elecraft
Requested technical comment from a long established coaxial cable manufacturer on this topic. This was the response: The Vp is not measured at any frequency and is independent of frequency. The only variable in play is the dielectric constant. The Vp represents the speed at which a signal

[Elecraft] VF Varies With Frequency

2020-04-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/1/2020 7:58 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: When dealing with a length of transmission line, the use of the '468' factor should not be used - compute the actual wavelength and then apply the velocity factor. There is yet another variable -- VF varies with frequency. At low frequencies, it is