An OS, by itself, is useless without user level tools and applications.
When considering Windows vs. Mac OS vs. Linux, you must consider what apps you
intend to use with it.
I am a UNIX/Linux bigot. I also like MacOS. But, I use Windows in my ham shack.
Windows is, by far, the most well support
Let's end this thread at this time, due to its exceeding the normal reasonable
level of posts in a day.
73,
Eric
Elecraft List Moderator
www.elecraft.com
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On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
> Also note that identical specs does not mean identical performance or
> hardwar
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Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows vs Mac
I have used Macs since 1984... From the the earliest 128k machines to the
newest 27" imac's. They all have served me well with out any virus
contamination. Four or five years ago I started running windows softwar
you end up getting to be pretty good at setting up
workgroups while youre at it!
Lu Romero - W4LT
Tampa - K3/P3/K1
Riding out the two storms... Issac and the RNC!
Message: 26
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:40:10 -0400
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV"
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows vs Mac
To: e
Paul,
Their are lots of good posts here to help you out. I have a couple more pluses
for the Mac...
- Operating system software can used on more than one Mac at a time. No need
to buy a new copy or contact Apple when installing on another Mac. Great for
trying various hardware.
- Mac OS is
A big "thank you" to all of the responses that I have received both on and off
the list regarding my question about Windows vs. Mac ham radio usage. I'm not
sure that additional list bandwidth needs to be taken up with a continuation of
this topic but I would still appreciate any additional tho
Also note that identical specs does not mean identical performance or
hardware... Anyone who has actually switched from one of those "60%"
Windows machines to a Mac soon understands the differences.
73,
Scott, N9AA
On 8/24/12 1:15 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Joe S
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> ...I will probably wipe the Apple operating systems from the Mac Minis
> in the house and convert them to Windows 7 or Windows 8
And for those who like this idea, note that you can buy a Windows machine
with identical
I was not happy with Parallels on my iMac. I run Boot Camp which comes with
OSX and I find it runs flawlessly.
Really helps to save on desk space just to have the space of a monitor.
HTH
73 de Eric, KG6MZS
On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:17 AM, David Christ wrote:
> There is one other potential solut
> I'm running an iMac Intel Core 2 Duo from Aug 2007 and ML will run on
> that.
Not on my Core2 Duo Mac Minis.
> My experience (and it's extensive on many OS) is that windows sytems
> 'time out' faster than Apple ones.
Far from it ... there are still a lot of Windows XP systems in service
today
> My Macs run fine, and Apple is not nagging me to update the OS in my
> old Mac Mini, which is running 10.5. If you have an old Mac, run the
> older OSs. You'll also probably have to run some older programs on it
> as well, but Apple doesn't require you to upgrade your OS.
You can't upgrade to M
Sorry, I don't agree Joe - there are regular 'point' upgrades that are free,
easy to download and install, but you don't have to upgrade if you don't wish
too. The major version upgrades (10.5 -> 10.6 -> 10.7 -> 10.8) are paid for,
but then so are the windows equivalents.
you don't have to upgra
Joe,
This is simply wrong. While Apple releases incremental OS upgrades about
once a year, Apple doesn't require anyone, let alone "all users," to buy
an upgrade. I waited over a year before I upgraded to Snow Leopard
(10.6) and have no plans to upgrade to Mountain Lion (10.8) any time
soon. My
> Mountain Lion will not run on machines that have a 32-bit EFI (bios).
> It has nothing to do with the processor type. My going on 5 year old
> Core 2 Duo Mac Book Pro runs just fine with 10.8. My 2007 Quad Core
> Mac Pro does not, because it has a 32-bit (rather than 64-bit) EFI.
> Time passes,
I have found the Mac to be an excellent choice. For those programs that I
really need from my old PC, I run under CrossOvere ($59.95) where ther run as
Mac apps with no switching back and forth. I have found the Navigator to be an
excellent interface satisfying every need for serial port, cw key
On 08/24/2012 06:44 AM, Paul and Sue Huff wrote:
> BTW, I know that Linux is a popular operating system for ham radio these days
> but I don't really know anything about it. I can certainly try to learn,
> however the computer has other uses in the family and so I would need to be
> able
> to eas
Check the Elecraft mail reflector archives for information This topic
has been beaten to death many times before. Lots of information, and tons
of misinformation. Technically, there's lots of choices, make the one best
for you.
73,
Bill
K9YEQ
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Paul,
I'm currently using a MacBook Pro flaptop that I bought to study Apple
programming. It's currently running the latest version of OS X, Mountain
Lion. The upgrade cost 19.95 and was a non-event.
I also run Windows 7 on it under Parallels, a virtual machine. Both ML
and Win 7 run at the s
>>
>
> While Apple has a good reputation for reliable hardware, their
> software policies make that long term reliability useless. Apple
> simply updates the operating system so often - and requires that
> all users purchase each incremental update.
Partly true, but with a major caveat. Point
Paul,
The subject of Mac or PC can sometimes start religious wars; however these days
it is possible to have the best of all worlds!
A modern Mac can not only run Apple's operating system and software, it can
also run either Windows or Linux at the same time.
There are excellent applications
> Apple hardware has a very good reputation for reliability and
> ability to work in harsh environments.
While Apple has a good reputation for reliable hardware, their
software policies make that long term reliability useless. Apple
simply updates the operating system so often - and requires t
I have a Mac Mini as well as a Win7 Dell laptop. The Dell is the ham machine
but the Mac could easily fill the bill using Windows 7. I boot it directly to
Win7 and no problems.
If you are used to a desktop with serial ports you will need to get a good
USB/RS232 multi port. There are some good o
I have used Macs since 1984... From the the earliest 128k machines to the
newest 27" imac's. They all have served me well with out any virus
contamination. Four or five years ago I started running windows software on
some of my machines. In general that has been a success and I have been pretty
OH and then if you must use Windows, there are virtual machine systems, like
Parellels, that allow you to run Windows on a Mac
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
--
I am told I talk in shorthand and then smudge it. - J.R.R. Tolkien (1892 - 1973)
On 24 Aug 2012, at 14:44, Paul and Sue Huff wro
Quite a lot of software is available for OSX (iMac OS) now and I think
MacLoggerDx is one of the best (although not free) and has a companion version
for iPad. It does a lot, including rig control. See
http://www.dogparksoftware.com/MacLoggerDX.html
There is a forum too http://two.pairlist.net/m
I use a Mac. Actually, I use an iMac-24, a MacBook Pro Laptop, an iPad, and an
iPhone. The only software I run on my Macs though are the utility programs for
my Elecraft rigs and MacLoggerDX. I use MacLoggerDX for logging only and I do
not use it in real-time as I use my radios. I continue t
At 09:44 AM 8/24/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Hi
Not sure what "long in the tooth" means exactly related to your present
computer. However I know what you mean about the attractiveness of the Mac
computers and Apple products in general. Your present computer seems to be
filling the bill for you a
Hello Paul,
I have a Mac Mini, and I love it. With 8Gb, it is speedy.
Windows is Swiss cheese when it comes to security.
You can run most Windows programs with software like Wine or CrossOver (which
includes Wine).
Not all programs work, but many do.
Linux is great and I use it on my laptop. I w
Apple hardware has a very good reputation for reliability and
ability to work in harsh environments. There are several ways to
run at least two operating systems on one computer, so having
dual-boot, windows and OSx is a common way of using the hardware.
Make sure the system you get has the I/O
There is one other potential solution. You could possibly run
windows as a virtual machine on the Mac. We use Mac laptops but have
one program that we need to run which is available for Windows only.
We are using Parallels to virtualize Windows XP. Works great for
this application. How it w
Please forgive me for a slightly off-topic post but I know that the collective
wisdom of the people on this list can give me a lot of good advice.
My shack computer is getting a little "long in the tooth" and I am starting to
research a replacement machine. My current ham usage for the computer
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