Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-24 Thread Volker Wächter, DD1VW
Dear OM, with regard to my questions regarding kit building or not, I received in the last a lot a of information being helpful to me in the matter of my decision for 2010 concerning my shack equipment. Now, I want thank you all in Germany and in the world very much for your respective info- H

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-21 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
n.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ed Muns Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:57 PM To: 'Phil Hystad' Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use Hi, Phil. The vast majority of K3 kits are assembled with no problems. K6LL's experience is rare. I

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-21 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:03:49 +0100, Volker W„chter wrote: >as far as I know, elecreft points out that a complete ESD equipment is >strictly recommended. Yes, it is, and it is most critical in cold climates in the winter. But that ESD kit can be limited to a wrist strap and a conductive mat. It

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-21 Thread David Y.
inal Message - From: "Phil Hystad" To: Cc: "'Elecraft Reflector'" ; "'Dave Hachadorian'" Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use >I would like to see more comments from K3 kit builder

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-21 Thread James Sarte
I built my K3. I enjoyed the process tremendously. While it's not a true kit per se, assembling it one's self does have some benefits. Apart from saving a few bucks - especially if you already have the tools as I did - you get to see how well the rig was designed. It also instills some confiden

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Reinaldo Leandro
Building the kit will save enough money to buy a couple of INRAD filters. It is a pleasant experience and the builder will be able to dig into the rig and exchange boards, that is valuable for me in case of trouble, it is less costly and faster to order a replacement board than to ship the whole bo

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Rick Dettinger
The cost of the mat and grounded wrist strap might not be a factor. They will be needed for any additions to the K3 at a later date. Building the K3 is like building the K2 after all the boards are completed. Just the final assembly part. By the time I built my K3, it was a welcome reli

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread George & Jan
Phil, I built my K3 a year ago. I used a basic ESD mat & wrist strap, a good set of Philips screwdrivers and pliers. That was about all that was necessary. I built mine so I would know how it was put together when I had to take it apart. I had to fix a Kenwood and its disassembly was a minor issue

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Brian Machesney
I second Don's comment, re: "If you build the K3, fears about adding options, doing upgrades or performing any maintenance later on will be minimized because you know how it 'goes together'." The ability to add features as requirements change and money becomes available is a major feature of Elecr

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Phil, How is your manual dexterity? Can you follow written instructions? Do you have 10 to 12 hours of time available to assemble a K3? If you have answered YES to the above questions, then you can build the K3 kit. The value of $200 vs. 10 to 12 hours of your time is for you to decide. If

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Ed Muns
2009 18:40 > To: w...@msn.com > Cc: 'Dave Hachadorian'; 'Elecraft Reflector' > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use > > I would like to see more comments from K3 kit builders to > counter these points being made here. > > I am also pl

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Phil Hystad
I would like to see more comments from K3 kit builders to counter these points being made here. I am also planning on getting the K3 and there is only one thing that is holding up my order right now and that is trying to figure out when I can spend the time to put it together. But, I am also a l

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Ed Muns
This is an important point and one that should be considered in the decision to get the factory-built K3 or the kit. Actually the sub-assemblies are tested as individual units. But the set of sub-assemblies in a kit have not been tested together as a system. The factory system tests are more rig

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Dave Hachadorian
, December 20, 2009 9:03 PM Subject: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use > Hello @ all, > > I do not know what most of you did. > As many others, I am also interested in a K3 Trx. > > what do you recommend ? > > do-it yourself an purchase a kit, or buy it ready

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Richard S. Lindzen
I don't know if my experience was unique, but I decided on the kit, and did, indeed, find that assembly went smoothly in the usually stated 10-12 hours. However, I was so struck by how precisely everything went together (almost like a puzzle), that I subsequently felt anxious about trying to

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Rick Tavan N6XI
My first K3 was a field test unit. They were all factory assembled so Elecraft could learn what they needed to write the assembly manual. My second K3 was a kit and I enjoyed building it very much. The manual is very clear. With almost all options it took about 10-12 hours to build and check out. Y

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Bob Maser
2009 2:03 PM Subject: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use > Hello @ all, > > I do not know what most of you did. > As many others, I am also interested in a K3 Trx. > > what do you recommend ? > > do-it yourself an purchase a kit, or buy it ready for use ? > > as

Re: [Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Dave, G4AON
The K3 kit needs an anti-static wrist strap and mat, they need not be expensive and will be useful for other tasks. You also need a small selection of basic hand tools (screwdrivers, pliers, etc), a low cost digital multi-meter to check for shorts and a 50 Ohm load rated to cope with the maximu

[Elecraft] kit building or buy ready for use

2009-12-20 Thread Volker Wächter
Hello @ all, I do not know what most of you did. As many others, I am also interested in a K3 Trx. what do you recommend ? do-it yourself an purchase a kit, or buy it ready for use ? as far as I know, elecreft points out that a complete ESD equipment is strictly recommended. what did you do ?