Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-06 Thread John Huggins
Thank you for the hints. Thanks to your and other's comments on the Elecraft list I have found numerous good examples with some as minimalistic as a FET + passives all the way to a good Instrumentation Amp + passives. This has inspired me to create a circuit based more on the modern In-Amp m

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-06 Thread Greg Derda
I am pretty sure that there are a couple of very simple circuits in "W1FB's Design Notebook" that specifically use the "D104 -> modern_radio" as an example. Greg KI4MMM K2 #6100 On Sep 6, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: John, If your D104 is an older one with the high impedance crystal

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, If your D104 is an older one with the high impedance crystal or ceramic element, yes it will not work so well (if at all). There was an article in QST about a year ago with a circuit design that had a very high impedance input and the low impedance output required by modern day radios,

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-06 Thread Bill W5WVO
Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Never had a problem John getting full rated PEP output from K2/100 #3255 using the HC-4 and HC-5 elements in the Heil ProSet Plus headset without an external preamp, but I don't use the K2/100's VOX. If I used VOX a little more audio gain would be required in th

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Never had a problem John getting full rated PEP output from K2/100 #3255 using the HC-4 and HC-5 elements in the Heil ProSet Plus headset without an external preamp, but I don't use the K2/100's VOX. If I used VOX a little more audio gain would be required in the VOX circuit, but additional audi

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread John Huggins
Thanks for the information all. So... I guess hooking up a D104 straight to K2 is not going to work out so well. Yes I know this is like putting tail fins on a Ford Taurus, but the kids really dig talking into a mic like that during times we promote ham radio. The D104 with my old Kenwood

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
John and all, You are correct that 'Heil Proset' by itself does not adequately describe the microphone. As is the case with all Heil mics, one must also be specific about the mic element used. The K2 works best with an electret element because they have higher output levels. The K3 FAQ pag

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread John R. Lonigro
John and Charles: The Heil Prosets with the HC-4 or HC-5 elements don't have quite enough output to drive the K2 without either an external preamp or tweaking of the K2's internal circuitry. The version with the electret element seems to work better with the K2. I believe the Heil K2 Proset i

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:53:40 -0400, John Huggins wrote: >What is it that makes any microphone >"optimized" for any radio. Pin outs are obvious of course. Many years ago, an international standards organization issued a poorly thought out standard for 2-way radio communications that, if follow

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread Julian G4ILO
Marketing. :) -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 9/5/07, John Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Charles brings up a good point. What is it that makes any microphone > "optimized" for any radio. Pin outs are obvio

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2/3

2007-09-05 Thread John Huggins
Charles Harpole wrote: I see that now Elecraft is offering sale of a Heil K2 Pro Set mic/headphone unit, saying it is "optimized for K2." I assume that also means K3. Charles brings up a good point. What is it that makes any microphone "optimized" for any radio. Pin outs are obvious of co

Re: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2

2006-12-08 Thread Don Nesbitt
Hi Jim - I use my old D-104 with the original crystal cartridge all the time with my K2 and get great reports. No need for a preamp, etc. as the crystal cartridge has output to burn! The problem with using a nonamplified D-104 with the K2 is that the D-104 is a very high impedance mic and the

RE: [Elecraft] Microphones for K2

2006-12-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, Not difficult IMHO, but you decide on the level of difficulty for you. Certainly that D104 can be made to work with the K2. If it is the amplified version, no problem, just give it the proper microphone plug and all will be well. If it is the unamplified version, then you will have to buil