Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Jan, SM5FQQ
I just bought a 19” Widescreen, ASUS VW199, to use with my P3 and it has
maximum 1440*900. So I vote for 1440*900 resolution. 

Merry Christmas and a Happy new Year from Jan SM5FQQ

PS Also looking forward to a TX-monitor function like the Telepostinc LP-500
Digital Station Monitor DS

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Ron - PE8E
Eric,

Could you please consider 1920x1200 to accommodate 16:10 (more upmarket)
widescreens?

1024x768 = 4:3 = XGA
1280x1024 = 5:4 = SXGA

1920x1080 = 16:9 = HD
1920x1200 = 16:10 = WUXGA

PE8E, Ron.


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and 1920x1080 wide screen. 1920x1080 is by far the dominant wide screen
format on new screens. (We just did a recent survey of what was
 available at Best Buy, Staples etc.) I'm amazed how low the cost has
gotten for the 1920x1080 screens.

 Each screen resolution requires a different FPGA design load from local
flash on the SVGA card. We may add at least one or two more wide formats
below  1920x1080 with new f/w updates after initial release. What are
the most popular wide screen resolutions in that range?

 Regards,
 Eric

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Ron - PE8E
Eric,

Could you please consider 1920x1200 to accommodate 16:10 (more upmarket)
widescreens?

1024x768 = 4:3 = XGA
1280x1024 = 5:4 = SXGA

1920x1080 = 16:9 = HD
1920x1200 = 16:10 = WUXGA

PE8E, Ron.


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 We are currently supporting 1024x768, 1280x1024 for the square formats,
and 1920x1080 wide screen. 1920x1080 is by far the dominant wide screen
format on new screens. (We just did a recent survey of what was
 available at Best Buy, Staples etc.) I'm amazed how low the cost has
gotten for the 1920x1080 screens.

 Each screen resolution requires a different FPGA design load from local
flash on the SVGA card. We may add at least one or two more wide formats
below  1920x1080 with new f/w updates after initial release. What are
the most popular wide screen resolutions in that range?

 Regards,
 Eric

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread John Ragle
I strongly second this plea!

Many of us who use a computer for tasks other than/in addition to radio 
use at least 24 screens w/rec. 1900x1200 format (WUXGA)

I have still not seen an answer to my thread query will the P3 windows 
be re-sizeable/moveable? PLEASE do not stick us with fixed-size windows 
that fill the entire screen!

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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On 12/18/2011 7:40 AM, Ron - PE8E wrote:
 Eric,

 Could you please consider 1920x1200 to accommodate 16:10 (more upmarket)
 widescreens?

 1024x768 = 4:3 = XGA
 1280x1024 = 5:4 = SXGA

 1920x1080 = 16:9 = HD
 1920x1200 = 16:10 = WUXGA

 PE8E, Ron.


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 We are currently supporting 1024x768, 1280x1024 for the square formats,
 and 1920x1080 wide screen. 1920x1080 is by far the dominant wide screen
 format on new screens. (We just did a recent survey of what was
 available at Best Buy, Staples etc.) I'm amazed how low the cost has
 gotten for the 1920x1080 screens.
 Each screen resolution requires a different FPGA design load from local
 flash on the SVGA card. We may add at least one or two more wide formats
 below  1920x1080 with new f/w updates after initial release. What are
 the most popular wide screen resolutions in that range?
 Regards,
 Eric

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Please add:

1366 x 768
(resolution of smaller HD ready TVs)

73
Arie PA3A
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[Elecraft] KX3 - Range of integration with P3 (initial version)?

2011-12-18 Thread Heinz Bärtschi
Hi all,

As far as is known the initial version of the KX3 will be equipped with a SMA 
jack, providing the I.F. signal.

What about the grade of integration with the P3: Supported features/modes, 
communications connector/cable, concurrent
CAT operation)?

73,
Heinz  HB9BCB

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Range of integration with P3 (initial version)?

2011-12-18 Thread Bruce Beford
Hi, Heinz.

It sounds like you are mistaken about the KX3 outputs. There is no SMA IF
output. The SMA connector that has been shown on the drawings is for the 2M
output of the optional transverter module (still in development). There is
no output for use with the P3. It -may- be possible to devise an external
device that converts the Rx I/Q output back to RF, for use with the P3. I do
not know if Elecraft currently has such a device planned. 

At initial release, the KX3 will not be compatible with the P3.

I hope this info helps.

73,
Bruce, N1RX

 As far as is known the initial version of the KX3 will be equipped with a
SMA jack, providing the I.F. signal.



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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread John Ragle
Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to 
say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest 
in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate 
with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated 
monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote:

Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly 
to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like 
your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It 
is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling 
the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX

On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote:

John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is 
not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated 
monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a 
switch in the monitor.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Oliver Dröse
John,

I would not call it a disaster. It simply works as expected! The P3 is a 
stand-alone pan-adapter which now gets a bigger screen, that's it. It is 
still self-contained, that's what the product is all about. If you want 
something linked to your computer go for an SDR-IQ (or similar solutions) on 
the K3's IF-out then you will have everything on your PC and can arrange the 
windows as you like. ;-))

73, Olli - DH8BQA



- Original Message - 
From: John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com
To: Jim McDonald j...@n7us.net; elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon


 Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to
 say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest
 in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate
 with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated
 monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking.

 John Ragle -- W1ZI

 =

 On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote:

 Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly
 to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like
 your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It
 is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling
 the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX

 On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote:

 John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is
 not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated
 monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a
 switch in the monitor.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Range of integration with P3 (initial version)?

2011-12-18 Thread Heinz Baertschi
Bruce,

Good to know, thanks!

73,
Heinz  HB9BCB


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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread amsctalx
Design disaster implies that it doesn't do what it was intended to do; it was 
obvious from the onset that this was an HD display adapter for the P3. This 
shouldn't be a big surprise, as the P3 is a self-contained panadapter and not a 
PC interface. 

You might not be interested in it, but that in and of itself does make it a 
disaster. 


Mike Alexander - N8MSA 

amsct...@comcast.net 

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From: John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com 
To: Jim McDonald j...@n7us.net, elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:33:32 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon 

Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to 
say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest 
in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate 
with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated 
monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking. 

John Ragle -- W1ZI 

= 

On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote: 

Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly 
to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like 
your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It 
is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling 
the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX 

On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote: 

John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is 
not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated 
monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a 
switch in the monitor. 


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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Dennis Moore
Agreed. A used 15 LCD screen can be had on eBay for less than 50 bucks, 
I think I can rearrange things to make room for that. I think Elecraft 
has given us exactly what they said they would, and I would like to 
thank them for providing it.

It is extremely apparent from this thread that no matter what Elecraft 
creates, somebody somewhere isn't going to be satisfied. Complaining 
about supporting 1920 x 1080 but not 1920 x 1200? I guess we should all 
be thankful at this time of year that resolution is the biggest issue 
that keeps us awake at night.

73, Happy Holidays, Dennis NJ6G

On 12/18/2011 7:56 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote:
 John,

 I would not call it a disaster. It simply works as expected! The P3 is a
 stand-alone pan-adapter which now gets a bigger screen, that's it. It is
 still self-contained, that's what the product is all about. If you want
 something linked to your computer go for an SDR-IQ (or similar solutions) on
 the K3's IF-out then you will have everything on your PC and can arrange the
 windows as you like. ;-))

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread David Gilbert

I would bet that only a very small minority of P3 users agree with you.  
If that's what you want, why didn't you buy a product that does exactly 
that?  I can think of at least three that work well.

Dave   AB7E



On 12/18/2011 8:33 AM, John Ragle wrote:
 Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to
 say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest
 in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate
 with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated
 monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking.

 John Ragle -- W1ZI

 =

 On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote:

 Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly
 to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like
 your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It
 is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling
 the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX

 On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote:

 John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is
 not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated
 monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a
 switch in the monitor.


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[Elecraft] KX3 - Range of integration with P3 (initial version)?

2011-12-18 Thread Edward R. Cole
Although the KX3 cannot be interfaced with the P3 (no IF to connect 
with), it will have baseband to any computer soundcard for running 
various SDR sw which often offer panadaptor screens.  It should be 
compatible with such sw as Spectran, Spectrogram, JTspectra, etc.  I 
will try it with Spectravue (which I currently use with both my 
SDR-IQ and LP-Pan).  Many SDR programs offer the option to I/F with a 
soundcard and that will make them compatible to take baseband output 
from the KX3.  What is still unknown is control of the KX3 via computer.

There is an empty space waiting to be filled by a KX3 in my 
shack.  I already have a converted transverter waiting to run 2m with 
it (I'm using it with the K3 for now).  Extra audio cables for 
connection to the emu0202.  Blank connections on the 12vdc power strip.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[Elecraft] P3SVGA

2011-12-18 Thread Richard Thorpe
Kudos to Elecraft for producing a monitor driver board for the P3, just the 
thing for you older elmers who appreciate a big screen.  What I'm waiting and 
yearning for is the same capability as advertised by TelePost for their long 
awaited LP500. I always thought the cutouts on the back of the P3  would be for 
a true station monitor. Please Elecraft boffins.

K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Range of integration with P3 (initial version)?

2011-12-18 Thread Eric Swartz, WA6HHQ Elecraft
Not so. We also plan to offer a small IQ to P3 adapter for the KX3, which will 
give users full P3 operation with the KX3.

Stay tuned!

73,
Eric

www.elecraft.com

Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:

Although the KX3 cannot be interfaced with the P3 (no IF to connect 
with), it will have baseband to any computer soundcard for running 
various SDR sw which often offer panadaptor screens.  It should be 
compatible with such sw as Spectran, Spectrogram, JTspectra, etc.  I 
will try it with Spectravue (which I currently use with both my 
SDR-IQ and LP-Pan).  Many SDR programs offer the option to I/F with a 
soundcard and that will make them compatible to take baseband output 
from the KX3.  What is still unknown is control of the KX3 via computer.

There is an empty space waiting to be filled by a KX3 in my 
shack.  I already have a converted transverter waiting to run 2m with 
it (I'm using it with the K3 for now).  Extra audio cables for 
connection to the emu0202.  Blank connections on the 12vdc power strip.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Edward R. Cole
John,

Well it get that the P3SVGA is merely an external monitor I/F and not 
an external connection to the IQ baseband.  Although that had been 
discussed as a possible future option (but this isn't that).

The absence of use of the P3 as a SDR enabling operation of SDR sw on 
a computer with the K3, was one reason I went with the LP-Pan.  I 
needed the ability to export the K3 IF to SDR sw for projects I am 
working on so the P3's single-use design did not satisfy 
that.  Likewise, I could not justify the P3 cost on that basis (but 
sure that it is very nice).  I also have no issue using my computer 
screen for panadaptor display.

So not necessarily a disaster as I could chose.  If I had bought a P3 
expecting that I/F, then I might consider it a disaster.  But I 
think that would be more a case of poor product research and planning 
on my part.  Eventual addition of such an I/F for the P3 would be 
excellent enhancement in my opinion.  That fits the same philosophy 
of having embedded 2m transverters and other features internalized 
rather than requiring a collection of different devices for each application.

That is why I am interested in the embedded 2m transverter for the 
KX3.  I would guess the embedded tuner in the KX3 fits the same 
concept.  But it is near impossible to expect to get everything 
under the hood (unless you happen to own a '69 Shelby Cobra!).

73, Ed - KL7uW


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Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to
say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest
in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate
with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated
monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking.

John Ragle -- W1ZI




73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Range of integration with P3 (initial version)?

2011-12-18 Thread Bruce Beford
Excellent. This is a logical step.
I was already halfway through designing my own. Now I don't have to.
Thanks,
Bruce, N1RX

  We also plan to offer a small IQ to P3 adapter for the KX3, which will  
 give users full P3 operation with the KX3.

 Stay tuned!

 73,
 Eric


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Range of integration with P3 (initial version)?

2011-12-18 Thread Fred Jensen
On 12/18/2011 6:02 AM, Heinz Bärtschi wrote:
 Hi all,

 As far as is known the initial version of the KX3 will be equipped
 with a SMA jack, providing the I.F. signal.

Ummm ... I don't think so.  The KX3 is said to be direct conversion, no 
1st IF, ergo no connector, SMA or otherwise.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Jim Brown

 We took a few lab pictures of our P3 SVGA display this week.

On a visit to Elecraft a few weeks ago, I was treated to a view of this
in the flesh, and it's a stunner. So far, I'm not sure what I would do
with it -- the P3 does what I think I need. On the other hand, like
Steve Jobs, Eric and Wayne have a way of figuring out what we need
before we know we need it. :)

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] RF Ammeter

2011-12-18 Thread Jim Wiley

As everyone knows, real RF ammeters are becoming scarce,  or very 
expensive.  Does anyone out there have info on where to find a circuit 
that is relatively inexpensive that I could use as a substitute?  
Something using a toroid core plus diode, or something like that,  would 
be what I am looking for.   Not too complicated in any case, and  
absolute accuracy is not needed - a relative indication would be fine.   
The application is measuring RF current for a trailing wire antenna  
from an airplane.Transmitter power is in the 100 watt range.


Thank in advance


- Jim, KL7CC


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[Elecraft] KAT500 ?

2011-12-18 Thread Joe K2UF
Any update on the KAT500 availability?

Joe K2UF

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were inconvenienced.



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Re: [Elecraft] RF Ammeter

2011-12-18 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/18/2011 11:17 AM, Jim Wiley wrote:

 As everyone knows, real RF ammeters are becoming scarce,  or
 very expensive.  Does anyone out there have info on where to find
 a circuit that is relatively inexpensive that I could use as a
 substitute? Something using a toroid core plus diode, or
 something like that,  would be what I am looking for.

  RF ammeters - direct reading or remote reading - are used
  extensively in AM broadcast antenna arrays.  In most cases they
  are available off-the-shelf but cheap they are not.  I'm sorry
  that I don't have a convenient URL to point you to but check the
  sites of AM BC transmission equipment suppliers.

--  73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] RF Ammeter

2011-12-18 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/18/2011 11:17 AM, Jim Wiley wrote:
 Does anyone out there have info on where to find a circuit
 that is relatively inexpensive that I could use as a substitute?
 Something using a toroid core plus diode, or something like that,  would
 be what I am looking for.

Yep. Google to find GM3SEK's excellent website.

73, JimK9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Gary VK4FD
John,

I agree. Sharing a screen with say N1MM for example would work for me. Having 
it just swallow the screen is of no interest to me either and the P3 will 
remain OFF  my shopping list.

73

Gary


VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile
Elecraft Equipment
K3 #679, KPA-500 #018
Living the dream!!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Ragle 
  To: Jim McDonald ; elecraft 
  Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon


  Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to 
  say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest 
  in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate 
  with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated 
  monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking.

  John Ragle -- W1ZI

  =

  On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote:

  Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly 
  to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like 
  your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It 
  is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling 
  the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX

  On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote:

  John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is 
  not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated 
  monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a 
  switch in the monitor.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread HQ129X


To all you whiners out there bring some  cheese.
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[Elecraft] KX3/P3 - clueless in NJ

2011-12-18 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Please explain why someone would want to use a P3 with a trail radio,
which runs off of batteries?  Doesn't dragging a P3 along sort of defeat
the idea of ultra-portability for operation from the field?

Help me to better understand.

Thanks,
de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/P3 - clueless in NJ

2011-12-18 Thread Matthew Pitts
Doug,

I think it's more a matter of using them together in the home shack than taking 
the P3 outdoors.

Matthew Pitts
N8OHU





 From: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:12 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3/P3 - clueless in NJ
 
Please explain why someone would want to use a P3 with a trail radio,
which runs off of batteries?  Doesn't dragging a P3 along sort of defeat
the idea of ultra-portability for operation from the field?

Help me to better understand.

Thanks,
de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Fred Jensen
Well ... the P3 is self-contained.  I bought mine as a toy ... Andrea 
had been spending a lot on her hobby [needlepoint, about as expensive as 
ham radio], and my radio-account balance was making it into 4-digits. 
We have an equal-hobby allowance policy.  What I found was that it is 
way more than a toy.  3 examples, there are more:

1.  Go split, put VFO A on DX, see pileup, put VFO B somewhere on pile, 
pile disappears, DX replies to someone  now, watch pile area.  If 
you're even slightly lucky, exactly one signal will appear.  Put VFO B 
on him, at the DX's TU, call.  It's almost too easy.  So far, it has 
changed DXing for me, but of course with my DXCC totals, practically all 
of them are new ones. :-)

2.  CQ rate in a contest falls unacceptably low, decide to SP, just 
watch the screen for signals and pick them off rather than tune down the 
band ever so slowly, much of which will be dead at any given time as you 
pass it.

3.  Looking for a CQ frequency?  They easily show up on the screen.  Put 
marker on it, tap SELECT, and you're there.

I suppose a bigger monitor has it's value, I don't have room for one. 
But to write-off the entire P3 over the VGA output seems a little harsh. 
  It has added a lot of value I didn't expect to my operating.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 12/18/2011 12:03 PM, Gary VK4FD wrote:

 I agree. Sharing a screen with say N1MM for example would work for
 me. Having it just swallow the screen is of no interest to me either
 and the P3 will remain OFF  my shopping list.
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Matt Zilmer
A bigger monitor isn't just bigger;  with the P3VGA the user gets
higher resolution and more detail to work with.  And for reasons too
numerous to mention, the P3 represents a nearly perfect complementary
visual aid to the K3 (and soon, the KX3).  And in this case, at least
to some, size does matter because with size comes better usability.
Fred metioned a few of the key use cases, but there are dozens
(probably).

73,
matt W6NIA

==

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:23:33 -0800, you wrote:

Well ... the P3 is self-contained.  I bought mine as a toy ... 

I suppose a bigger monitor has it's value, I don't have room for one. 
But to write-off the entire P3 over the VGA output seems a little harsh. 
  It has added a lot of value I didn't expect to my operating.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 12/18/2011 12:03 PM, Gary VK4FD wrote:

 I agree. Sharing a screen with say N1MM for example would work for
 me. Having it just swallow the screen is of no interest to me either
 and the P3 will remain OFF  my shopping list.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/P3 - clueless in NJ

2011-12-18 Thread Bruce Beford
I think of the KX3 as a radio that will have multi-use appeal. Yes, it
should be a fine TFR, with great performance. It can also be a great camp
radio, on the table in the RV or cabin. With the use of the (to come)
KXPA100, It can be 100 W at the desk or in the car, and a super QRP rig on
the trail or in the kayak. 

For many, it could be the ideal radio to grow with you. Remember the
Foundation license in the UK is limited to 10W max. Get the amp after you
upgrade, instead of a whole new rig.

I think a product that may have some appeal is a slimmed-down version of the
P3 for portable use. Perhaps the same thickness as the KX3. There's a lot of
spare room in the current desktop version. In fact, the case was made out of
steel to give it some weight so it wouldn't move around on the desk.

How about this- a version of the P3 specifically for the KX3- it hinges over
the front panel, protecting the knobs while in transport. Flip it up for
normal operation, with a full featured panadapter above radio faceplate. I'd
buy one.

73,
Bruce, N1RX


Please explain why someone would want to use a P3 with a trail radio,
which runs off of batteries?  Doesn't dragging a P3 along sort of defeat
the idea of ultra-portability for operation from the field?

Help me to better understand.

Thanks,
de Doug KR2Q



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/P3 - clueless in NJ

2011-12-18 Thread Heinz Baertschi
Matthew,

Exactly! As for me it's a matter of (ultra-) flexibility.

73,
Heinz  HB9BCB


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[Elecraft] FS: K2 160 meter 2nd antenna option

2011-12-18 Thread edward kacura
GA...cleaning up around the shack today, and have an unopened 160 meter kit for 
the K2. I ran across a built assembly, bought it and installed in my K2.
 
I'll let it go for $30.00 and I'll pay shipping, contact me off line at 
ekac...@yahoo.com.
 
73 de Ed N7EDK in Marana,AZ
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[Elecraft] Hiccups with an older K1 and a new KFL1-4

2011-12-18 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi Folks,

I purchased a second hand K1 a few weeks ago and am in the process of 
installing a new KFL1-4 that I just finished building.

The K1 is serial number 00863.  The RF board is Rev. D and and the unit 
is equipped with MCU 109E, which I think is the latest firmware version.

The hiccups:

1.  I didn't have the Errata sheet in front of me and managed to install 
all of the trimmer capacitors on the KFL1-4 board backwards.  The 
trimmers have two flat sides, not one (which was confusing...without the 
Errata in front of me).  I read that the adjusting screw is to be on the 
side that connects to ground.  Thinking I was a smart guy, I used an 
ohmmeter to determine which trimmer terminal that was...and I still 
managed to get it wrong!  Anyway, I used a non-metallic screwdriver to 
do the alignment and all went well.  That said, is there any reason why 
I should remove and re-install (or just replace) the trimmers now?

2.  All went well when I did the 4-Band Transmitter Alignment on page 19 
of the KFL1-4 manual except that output on 15m is approximately 200 to 
300 mW on the K1's internal and an external wattmeter.  Output on all 
other bands was 2+ watts.  Output on 15m remains at 200 to 300 mW even 
when I increase the power to 5W.  All other bands are OK.  Low output is 
covered in the Troubleshooting section, but not that I can see when it's 
only 1 band out of 4.  Any thoughts?

3.  I didn't get the original manual with the K1 and there are several 
differences between the Rev. D RF board and the manual I downloaded from 
the Elecraft website.  The Rev. D RF board doesn't have a place for S2 
(for transmitter offset adjustment).  However, there appears to be a 
location for a switch at the front of the board, on the bottom and 
immediately behind the P1 header.  Same thing?  Just in a different 
location?

Many thanks for any assistance!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS
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Re: [Elecraft] RF Ammeter

2011-12-18 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
I couldn't locate the GM3SEK article (is it still there?), but this is 
also useful:
http://www.w8ji.com/building_a_current_meter.htm

And I believe that QST and/or the ARRL Handbook has information on this, 
also.

73, doug


On 18-Dec-11 19:17, Jim Wiley wrote:

 As everyone knows, real RF ammeters are becoming scarce,  or very
 expensive.  Does anyone out there have info on where to find a circuit
 that is relatively inexpensive that I could use as a substitute?
 Something using a toroid core plus diode, or something like that,  would
 be what I am looking for.   Not too complicated in any case, and
 absolute accuracy is not needed - a relative indication would be fine.
 The application is measuring RF current for a trailing wire antenna
 from an airplane.Transmitter power is in the 100 watt range.


 Thank in advance


 - Jim, KL7CC


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[Elecraft] FS: 2 Band Module (80/40) for K1

2011-12-18 Thread edward kacura
GAI have a built 2 band module for the K1 that covers 80/40 meters. I 
bought it built, but have never got around to using it in the K1, and would 
like to get it to a good home where it can be used. I'll let it go for $60.00 
and I'll pay the shipping. There is also a K1B15 15 M module kit that comes 
with it. Contact me off line at ekac...@yahoo.com.
 
73 de Ed N7EDK in Marana,AZ.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/P3 - clueless in NJ

2011-12-18 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
On 18-Dec-11 20:42, Bruce Beford wrote:

 How about this- a version of the P3 specifically for the KX3- it hinges over
 the front panel, protecting the knobs while in transport. Flip it up for
 normal operation, with a full featured panadapter above radio faceplate. I'd
 buy one.

 73,
 Bruce, N1RX

This might also be useful for the K3 for larger DXpedition use.  A small 
screen and repackaged P3 would be somewhat easier to add to a K3/KPA500 
transportable package.

All airlines are getting more restrictive in their baggage rules.
73, doug

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Re: [Elecraft] RF Ammeter

2011-12-18 Thread Rick Bates
A short Google search found:

http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek/clamp-on/clamp-on.htm 

Merry/Happy Christmas,

Rick WA6NHC

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS
+1-510-655-8604
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:54 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF Ammeter

I couldn't locate the GM3SEK article (is it still there?), but this is 
also useful:
http://www.w8ji.com/building_a_current_meter.htm

And I believe that QST and/or the ARRL Handbook has information on this, 
also.

73, doug


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Re: [Elecraft] RF Ammeter

2011-12-18 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Jim, I sent you direct the construction info on my 0-100 mA and 0-1.5A RF
ammeter that includes photos and schematic. I hope your e-mail system allows
the attachments. If not, let me know. 

This is an in-line ammeter, not a clamp on type. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
7


As everyone knows, real RF ammeters are becoming scarce,  or very 
expensive.  Does anyone out there have info on where to find a circuit 
that is relatively inexpensive that I could use as a substitute?  
Something using a toroid core plus diode, or something like that,  would 
be what I am looking for.   Not too complicated in any case, and  
absolute accuracy is not needed - a relative indication would be fine.   
The application is measuring RF current for a trailing wire antenna  
from an airplane.Transmitter power is in the 100 watt range.


Thank in advance


- Jim, KL7CC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Range of integration with P3 (initial version)?

2011-12-18 Thread Bob Cunnings
Very nice -- will the adapter/P3 interface be the aux. data port
rather than the IF port, perhaps to minimize the number of conversions
in the path? I've been wondering about possible applications for aux.
data.

Bob NW8L


Not so. We also plan to offer a small IQ to P3 adapter for the KX3, which will
give users full P3 operation with the KX3.

Stay tuned!

73,
Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] RF Ammeter

2011-12-18 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Rick Bates wrote:
A short Google search found:

http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek/clamp-on/clamp-on.htm

Merry/Happy Christmas,

Rick WA6NHC

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS
+1-510-655-8604
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:54 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF Ammeter

I couldn't locate the GM3SEK article (is it still there?), but this is
also useful:
http://www.w8ji.com/building_a_current_meter.htm

And I believe that QST and/or the ARRL Handbook has information on this,
also.

73, doug


You're there ahead of me.

The typical clamp-on RF current meter with a 10-turn secondary and a 
50-ohm terminating resistance has a theoretical insertion resistance of 
0.5 ohms, so it doesn't disturb the antenna very much. In practice the 
resistance is increased by the gaps in the core, so if possible I'd 
suggest threading the antenna wire through a ferrite toroid instead 
(probably #43 material for general HF use - NOT iron dust).

The article by G0SNO on the page referenced above shows how the RF 
current meter can be quite accurately calibrated using a transmitter, 
wattmeter and dummy load.




-- 

73 from Ian GM3SEK
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/P3 - clueless in NJ

2011-12-18 Thread Jim Brown
On 12/18/2011 12:12 PM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
 Please explain why someone would want to use a P3 with a trail radio,
 which runs off of batteries?

It's not ONLY a trail radio -- it also can be the control head for a 
100W mobile rig with the 100W amp (or a bigger one) in the trunk or 
under the seat, or part of a medium cost desktop rig with the amp under 
the bench. That's part of the genius of this design!

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] RF Ammeter

2011-12-18 Thread Jim Wiley

Thanks to all who responded.  Several circuits to try, so I am sure one 
of them will work for what I have in mind.  Again, thank you.


-- Jim,  KL7CC


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[Elecraft] [HAM] 20 meter QRP brick?

2011-12-18 Thread K1FFX
Looking for an amplifier to use with my PSK-20 20 meter QRP PSK rig.  The
Ramsey product, from what I can tell from on-line reviews, is not of
adequate quality for my purposes.  The HF Packer amplifier looks like it is
very high quality, but is over-kill for my needs (since I only have the 20
meter rig).

Any suggestions for other products (preferably in kit form) much
appreciated!

Cheers -

Bruce


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Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] 20 meter QRP brick?

2011-12-18 Thread John Harper
http://www.communication-concepts.com/new_page_9.htm

http://www.ae5x.com/blog/tag/eb63/

John AE5X
http://www.ae5x.com/blog

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[Elecraft] K3 MARS firmware pgm

2011-12-18 Thread David Windisch
Hi, Eric:
Pls be kind enough to send me the MARS code, as I've lost it somewhere here, 
thanks.
I'm looking very much fwd to the large P3 display, as well.
Brgds,
Dave, N3HE 



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Re: [Elecraft] [HAM] 20 meter QRP brick?

2011-12-18 Thread Tom McCulloch
I built the HF packer a few years back -- a bit overkill for psk work - 
but a hand amp for those days when qrp doesn't make it:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hfprojects/

This is the updated version.

Tom
WB2QDG
k2 1103


On 12/18/2011 5:31 PM, K1FFX wrote:
 Looking for an amplifier to use with my PSK-20 20 meter QRP PSK rig.  The
 Ramsey product, from what I can tell from on-line reviews, is not of
 adequate quality for my purposes.  The HF Packer amplifier looks like it is
 very high quality, but is over-kill for my needs (since I only have the 20
 meter rig).

 Any suggestions for other products (preferably in kit form) much
 appreciated!

 Cheers -

 Bruce


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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (12/18/11)

2011-12-18 Thread Phillip Shepard
We had a small net today.  Signals seemed about average.  There were 17
participants over a 13 minute period, with no discussions other than
weather.
Have a great week heading into the holidays.

Here is the list of participants.

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

KC5RY   George  TX  K3  5208
W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
WA5TYJ  Dennis  NM  K2  2165
WV5IDwayne  TX  K3  5287
K4GCJ   Gerry   NC  K3  1597
K4IEZ   BillAZ  K3  5675
K6DSW   Don CA  K3  3138
W4RKS   Jim AL  K3  3618
KL7UW   Ed  AK  K3  4043QRP
KN5LJohnTX  K2  7212QRP
NT1RBillME  K3  124
K8EAG   Gil MI  K3  99
AE6RH   Ron CA  K3  1997
KN8AJim MI  K3  3480
KB3FBR  Joe PA  K2  6178QRP
NL7ADougAK  K3  4568
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Nate Bargmann
Absolutely agreed, Fred.  I have put the P3 to use in each scenario
you've listed.  I have found a down side, if you will.  I have noticed
issues with signals and have helped a couple of ops identify and resolve
a problem.  It takes a bit of tact to tell someone of a problem they are
probably not aware of.  However, the P3 utility's feature of taking a
screenshot has proven quite useful.

I, for one, want to put out the best signal I can and when I can help
others do the same, the P3 has proven its value to me.  It remains to be
seen if the SVGA adapter is something I'll decide to get down the road.

73, de Nate N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Fred Jensen
Yes, one in particular ... WWV :-)  I still cannot explain what appear 
to be harmonics of the audio tones at levels I sure didn't expect.  I 
corresponded with someone at the station, he said they are sine waves 
derived from the cesium standards, asked for a photo, and thanks to the 
P3 Utility, I sent him two, one at about 5 KHz span, and one zeroed in 
on the carrier which clearly shows the 100 Hz sub-carrier and the IRIG-H 
time code modulation.  He assured me they were on frequency and I hope 
I explained that that was *not* the issue.  I have yet to hear back.  If 
anyone can explain what several of us see on the P3 when looking at WWV 
at narrow spans, I'd sure like to know.  I'm baffled.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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On 12/18/2011 4:21 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

 I have found a down side, if you will.  I have noticed
 issues with signals and have helped a couple of ops identify and resolve
 a problem.  It takes a bit of tact to tell someone of a problem they are
 probably not aware of.  However, the P3 utility's feature of taking a
 screenshot has proven quite useful.
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[Elecraft] 160 meter kit sold

2011-12-18 Thread edward kacura
The kit for the K2 160 meters and 2nd antenna option is sold...Thanks. Ed  N7EDK
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[Elecraft] KPA-500 Heat Expansion Pop

2011-12-18 Thread Claude Du Berger
Are the latest KPA-500 now sent with the POP repaired?

73, Claude VE2FK
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread w4ish
I have had a monitor with this (1440 X 900) format sitting behind the K3 for 
the pst 6 months, waiting for the monitor upgrade.The dark screen is 
waiting to be used!  I hope this is included (It is a 19 wide screen format… 
very popular!)
73
Bill
W4ISH
On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF [via Elecraft] wrote:

 1440 x 900 seems to be a popular wide screen format too Eric, maybe that 
 would be worthy of inclusion. 
 



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 and K3 VFOB

2011-12-18 Thread John_N1JM
What firmware version do you have in your P3?

John N1JM


Stephen  Prior wrote
 
 I can't duplicate any of this on my K3/P3 combo.
 
 73, Stephen G4SJP
 
 
 
 On 17/12/2011 22:00, John_N1JM lt;johnn1jm@gt; wrote:
 
Not to beat it to death but the 100khz digits on each VFO need to be
close to
each other for it to happen such as VFO A is 7267 and VFO B is 21261.

John N1JM

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 and K3 VFOB

2011-12-18 Thread Alan Bloom
John,

Thanks for the exact description so I could confirm the bug.  It's very
strange - it only happens when cross-band and at certain spans and
frequencies.  I'll add it to the bug list.

Alan N1AL


On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 10:58 -0800, John_N1JM wrote:
 Rick:
 
 It's not marker B. I can turn marker B on and off. If someone wants to check
 it, tune VFO A to 7.160 and B to 14.155 with span set to 25khz. The magenta
 bar or u shows up to the left of green A. It moves as you tune VFO B. There
 is no carrier line, however on B as there is for A.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-18 Thread Nate Bargmann
I recall your thread, Fred.

As I've used Fldigi to calibrate various rigs with its Freq analysis
mode, I too saw the effect.  I assumed that it was likely an artifact of
the soundcard or some such.  That it comes up on the P3 discounts that
assumption.  I don't have an explanation.  However, I'm reminded to take
a look with the P3 and Fldigi sometime to see how they correspond.

73, de Nate N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Range of integration with P3 (initial version)?

2011-12-18 Thread Igor Kosvin

 Eric:
 Not so. We also plan to offer a small IQ to P3 adapter for the KX3, which
will give users full P3 operation with the KX3.
Eric,
Can you elaborate on this?
Does that mean P3 will have analog I/Q inputs that will be digitized in the
adapter? 
Thanks,
Igor, N1YX

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[Elecraft] KPA500

2011-12-18 Thread John_N1JM
I just finished putting together #594. Nice amp! 
It mentions/shows a rs232 connector for a Kenwood radio. Does the amp just
follow the band changes from the Kenwood radio or are thee other commands
like keying/PTT as with the K3?

73, John N1JM

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[Elecraft] P3 on the sleigh

2011-12-18 Thread Jim Miller
Santa just loaded a P3 on his sleigh.

woo hoo!

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Display

2011-12-18 Thread Alan Bloom
On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 22:22 +, Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
 Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 
 Also, with more vertical lines the waterfall covers a much longer time 
 period.
 
 Will the waterfall also cover the same time period as at present, but 
 with better resolution of keyclicks and other transients? (That is 
 presently a major shortfall of the P3 compared with other SDRs.)

Each line of the waterfall corresponds to one screen update of the
spectrum.  You can slow down the waterfall (to get a longer history) by
setting a slower update rate in the menu.  The maximum update rate of
the SVGA is still being optimized.  The goal is to have it at least as
fast as the main P3.  Even at that rate, the SVGA waterfall will tend to
show a longer history simply because of the increased resolution (i.e.
it can have more lines of waterfall).

Alan N1AL





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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Display

2011-12-18 Thread David Gilbert

I don't own a P3, but if I did I'd like to have the option to make the 
waterfall scroll from right to left like CW Skimmer does in Blind Mode.  
With a bit of practice, you can teach yourself to visually decode CW 
(assuming the resolution is adequate) sufficiently to catch a missing 
character without having to ask for a repeat.  Having the display scroll 
right to left makes the CW string read left to right like most of us 
would more readily grasp.  I'm not saying that a vertical scroll is a 
LOT more difficult to read ... only that horizontal is more intuitive.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 12/18/2011 8:44 PM, Alan Bloom wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 22:22 +, Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
 Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 Also, with more vertical lines the waterfall covers a much longer time
 period.

 Will the waterfall also cover the same time period as at present, but
 with better resolution of keyclicks and other transients? (That is
 presently a major shortfall of the P3 compared with other SDRs.)
 Each line of the waterfall corresponds to one screen update of the
 spectrum.  You can slow down the waterfall (to get a longer history) by
 setting a slower update rate in the menu.  The maximum update rate of
 the SVGA is still being optimized.  The goal is to have it at least as
 fast as the main P3.  Even at that rate, the SVGA waterfall will tend to
 show a longer history simply because of the increased resolution (i.e.
 it can have more lines of waterfall).

 Alan N1AL


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2011-12-18 Thread Jack Brindle
It is used only for band indication so the KPA follows the radio.
You need to connect the Key in line to the Kenwood's PA Key output.

73!

Jack Brindle, W6FB

On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:41 PM, John_N1JM wrote:

 I just finished putting together #594. Nice amp! 
 It mentions/shows a rs232 connector for a Kenwood radio. Does the amp just
 follow the band changes from the Kenwood radio or are thee other commands
 like keying/PTT as with the K3?
 
 73, John N1JM
 
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