[Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -
In response to my message May 23, 2012; 3:27pm on the Elecraft P3 reflector Roger White W5RDW in Murphy, Texas responded off-list. He had the same problem I described. It was not coming from the K3 but from inside the P3. We both noted it started after installing the SVGA. During our investigation we boy found: 1 - the signal is about 5kHz wide 2 - it moves either up or down in frequency ever so slowly 3 - moving the VFO does not change the position of the signal - internal to P3? 4 - reach back and approach the IF signal coax between the K3 P3 causes it to temporarily go away 5 - sometimes touching the P3 cabinet caused it to disappear 6 - changed out the coax but it still happens When the signal crosses the VFO frequency no sound is heard - only the signal being listened to. But reaching back in the proximity of the linking coax causes it to go away. Turning PC and other gear off has no effect. Roger and I spent sometime isolating the source. We found a signal was coupling into the IF cable inside the P3 from the ribbon cable. As you can see from the SVGA instruction manual the ribbon cable is so long that if not dressed it goes across the P3 and pushes up against the IF coax in the unit. When the ribbon cable is dressed by folding it tightly keeping it well away from the IF coax the wondering signal no longer appears. If you are having this anomaly Roger and I recommend making the change to the ribbon cable as shown in the two pictures below. It would be nice to have a shorter ribbon cable. 73, Bob - W6OPO Roger - W5RDW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. Perhaps Elecraft could clarify? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK -Original Message- From: Andy McMullin Chris, They do now! I received a tweet from Waters and Stanton yesterday saying they were now resellers. See http://blog.wsplc.com/?p=519 Excellent news for the UK -- Regards Andy, G8TQH http://www.rickham.net/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
I expect $ prices to appear as £. I'd rather deal direct, certainly on high-value items. David G3UNA On 29/05/2012 08:56, Geoffrey Downs wrote: It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. Perhaps Elecraft could clarify? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK -Original Message- From: Andy McMullin Chris, They do now! I received a tweet from Waters and Stanton yesterday saying they were now resellers. See http://blog.wsplc.com/?p=519 Excellent news for the UK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
I whole-heartedly agree. If exclusive it would be a slippery slope for Elecraft. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 29 May 2012 11:13, David Cutter d.cut...@ntlworld.com wrote: I expect $ prices to appear as £. I'd rather deal direct, certainly on high-value items. David G3UNA On 29/05/2012 08:56, Geoffrey Downs wrote: It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. Perhaps Elecraft could clarify? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK -Original Message- From: Andy McMullin Chris, They do now! I received a tweet from Waters and Stanton yesterday saying they were now resellers. See http://blog.wsplc.com/?p=519 Excellent news for the UK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
I too would certainly prefer to deal direct with Elecraft in the US. As a long time customer I have found their service and attention to detail is second to none. Deni F5VJC, G3SKN, GM3SKN On 29 May 2012 12:13, David Cutter d.cut...@ntlworld.com wrote: I expect $ prices to appear as £. I'd rather deal direct, certainly on high-value items. David G3UNA On 29/05/2012 08:56, Geoffrey Downs wrote: It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. Perhaps Elecraft could clarify? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK -Original Message- From: Andy McMullin Chris, They do now! I received a tweet from Waters and Stanton yesterday saying they were now resellers. See http://blog.wsplc.com/?p=519 Excellent news for the UK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
*Same for VK gary * On 29 May 2012 18:56, Geoffrey Downs geoffre...@madasafish.com wrote: It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. Perhaps Elecraft could clarify? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK -Original Message- From: Andy McMullin Chris, They do now! I received a tweet from Waters and Stanton yesterday saying they were now resellers. See http://blog.wsplc.com/?p=519 Excellent news for the UK -- Regards Andy, G8TQH http://www.rickham.net/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
Hear, hear. Dealings and service from Waters and Stanton leave a lot to be desired :-( 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Geoffrey Downs geoffre...@madasafish.com writes It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -
Is it possible the ribbon cable is as long as it is because it will need to eventually be routed around something else to be added later? Art - N4PJ On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Bob Lanning bob.lann...@verizon.netwrote: In response to my message May 23, 2012; 3:27pm on the Elecraft P3 reflector Roger White W5RDW in Murphy, Texas responded off-list. He had the same problem I described. It was not coming from the K3 but from inside the P3. We both noted it started after installing the SVGA. During our investigation we boy found: 1 - the signal is about 5kHz wide 2 - it moves either up or down in frequency ever so slowly 3 - moving the VFO does not change the position of the signal - internal to P3? 4 - reach back and approach the IF signal coax between the K3 P3 causes it to temporarily go away 5 - sometimes touching the P3 cabinet caused it to disappear 6 - changed out the coax but it still happens When the signal crosses the VFO frequency no sound is heard - only the signal being listened to. But reaching back in the proximity of the linking coax causes it to go away. Turning PC and other gear off has no effect. Roger and I spent sometime isolating the source. We found a signal was coupling into the IF cable inside the P3 from the ribbon cable. As you can see from the SVGA instruction manual the ribbon cable is so long that if not dressed it goes across the P3 and pushes up against the IF coax in the unit. When the ribbon cable is dressed by folding it tightly keeping it well away from the IF coax the wondering signal no longer appears. If you are having this anomaly Roger and I recommend making the change to the ribbon cable as shown in the two pictures below. It would be nice to have a shorter ribbon cable. 73, Bob - W6OPO Roger - W5RDW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
*David, Seems like it is a common issue with dealers. Dealers in VK seem to spend an inordinate amount of time rubbishing each other and very little with regard to customer service. In fact, none of the 'authorised' resellers have repair facilities in-house. You get told to send it to the manufacturer and for this they charge you a premium to buy the gear. I will not deal with any of the VK resellers now, been there, done that. I was a dealer myself, won't do that again either. Do Ten Tec still deal direct even if they have a dealer in the area/country? I think the option to deal direct must remain without any detrimental effect on the customer. It should remain 'our' choice, if the reseller wants to be one, then that is their decision but they should be aware that customers have the right to deal direct. I would like to see a Parts person in VK. My thought is to have a Repository in country and if instructed by Support, parts are sent to to the customer from inside the country. This would speed up delivery of parts after the issue is identified. No need for a reseller which will only add to the cost of equipment with very little if any advantage gained. 73's Gary * On 29 May 2012 21:42, David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk wrote: Hear, hear. Dealings and service from Waters and Stanton leave a lot to be desired :-( 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Geoffrey Downs geoffre...@madasafish.com writes It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX?
I had limited time available for the WPX and operated as VF2A. I loaded v4.51 beta before the contest to try it out. I tried the settings mentioned above before the contest. I cannot imagine using them. I cannot imagine spending the entire contest with my hand on the gain controls to prevent serious ear damage. I run my RF gain wide open. Always. I finally changed my settings to the defaults in my owners manual. I contested with both hands on the keyboard. I worked the weak stations with no difficulty and the strong ones with no pain. I do not expect every improvement to be useful to me. Everyone configures and uses their K3 differently. I am very impressed that Elecraft is able (and willing) to keep improving our equipment. I have never regretted buying anything from them. -Robby VY2SS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Rev-4-51-firmware-what-AGC-settings-worked-on-big-pile-ups-with-loud-AND-weak-signals-in-the-WPX-tp7556676p7556740.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
I would like to see a Parts person in VK. My thought is to have a Repository in country and if instructed by Support, parts are sent to to the customer from inside the country. This would speed up delivery of parts after the issue is identified. In general establishing a parts depot in each country (or common trading block) would be a very expensive proposition. While doing so for a large block like the EU might make sense doing so on a single country basis or even a small block like ANZAC is far too capital intensive to be justified. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/29/2012 8:17 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: *David, Seems like it is a common issue with dealers. Dealers in VK seem to spend an inordinate amount of time rubbishing each other and very little with regard to customer service. In fact, none of the 'authorised' resellers have repair facilities in-house. You get told to send it to the manufacturer and for this they charge you a premium to buy the gear. I will not deal with any of the VK resellers now, been there, done that. I was a dealer myself, won't do that again either. Do Ten Tec still deal direct even if they have a dealer in the area/country? I think the option to deal direct must remain without any detrimental effect on the customer. It should remain 'our' choice, if the reseller wants to be one, then that is their decision but they should be aware that customers have the right to deal direct. I would like to see a Parts person in VK. My thought is to have a Repository in country and if instructed by Support, parts are sent to to the customer from inside the country. This would speed up delivery of parts after the issue is identified. No need for a reseller which will only add to the cost of equipment with very little if any advantage gained. 73's Gary * On 29 May 2012 21:42, David Prattda...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk wrote: Hear, hear. Dealings and service from Waters and Stanton leave a lot to be desired :-( 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Geoffrey Downsgeoffre...@madasafish.com writes It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -
There is (was) a known problem with the MMIC amplifier (comprising the IF amp into the P3) oscillating.this instability could certainly manifest itself in what you are seeing. The guys at Elecraft sent me a replacement rear panel interface board and my prob went away Also, make certain the coax connectors are well grounded to the rear panel with the supplied star washers. Hope this helps John On Tue May 29 5:15 , Arthur Burke sent: Is it possible the ribbon cable is as long as it is because it will need to eventually be routed around something else to be added later? Art - N4PJ On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Bob Lanning bob.lann...@verizon.netwrote: In response to my message May 23, 2012; 3:27pm on the Elecraft P3 reflector Roger White W5RDW in Murphy, Texas responded off-list. He had the same problem I described. It was not coming from the K3 but from inside the P3. We both noted it started after installing the SVGA. During our investigation we boy found: 1 - the signal is about 5kHz wide 2 - it moves either up or down in frequency ever so slowly 3 - moving the VFO does not change the position of the signal - internal to P3? 4 - reach back and approach the IF signal coax between the K3 P3 causes it to temporarily go away 5 - sometimes touching the P3 cabinet caused it to disappear 6 - changed out the coax but it still happens When the signal crosses the VFO frequency no sound is heard - only the signal being listened to. But reaching back in the proximity of the linking coax causes it to go away. Turning PC and other gear off has no effect. Roger and I spent sometime isolating the source. We found a signal was coupling into the IF cable inside the P3 from the ribbon cable. As you can see from the SVGA instruction manual the ribbon cable is so long that if not dressed it goes across the P3 and pushes up against the IF coax in the unit. When the ribbon cable is dressed by folding it tightly keeping it well away from the IF coax the wondering signal no longer appears. If you are having this anomaly Roger and I recommend making the change to the ribbon cable as shown in the two pictures below. It would be nice to have a shorter ribbon cable. 73, Bob - W6OPO Roger - W5RDW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX?
Did anyone notice more than normal hum on signals? I don't think it was the new settings as some stations had it, most didn't but I would just like to make sure it wasn't just me. I also run with the gain wide open and while running stations would get the loud one that would blow my ear drums. I didn't' try returning the settings to defaults. But I am still searching for good settings. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com K3 Serial #5934 AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robby.VY2SS Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:27 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX? I had limited time available for the WPX and operated as VF2A. I loaded v4.51 beta before the contest to try it out. I tried the settings mentioned above before the contest. I cannot imagine using them. I cannot imagine spending the entire contest with my hand on the gain controls to prevent serious ear damage. I run my RF gain wide open. Always. I finally changed my settings to the defaults in my owners manual. I contested with both hands on the keyboard. I worked the weak stations with no difficulty and the strong ones with no pain. I do not expect every improvement to be useful to me. Everyone configures and uses their K3 differently. I am very impressed that Elecraft is able (and willing) to keep improving our equipment. I have never regretted buying anything from them. -Robby VY2SS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Rev-4-51-firmware-what-AGC-settings-worked-on-big-pile-ups-with-loud-AND-weak-signals-in-the-WP X-tp7556676p7556740.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
Geoff, Even if WS did know that someone in the UK was dealing with Elecraft directly, I very much doubt that WS could or would want to do anything to prevent that person from doing so. My understanding of exclusive in this context, is that WS have been chosen/ asked/ appointed by Elecraft to be the sole dealer in the UK selling Elecraft's products. If Elecraft have not done this, then exclusive IMHO should not have appeared in the announcement. 73, Geoff LX2AO On May 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Geoffrey Downs G3UCK wrote: It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. Perhaps Elecraft could clarify? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX?
Hi Steve et al I operated 10m SB with Full K - Line, as M3i on Sunday. My final setup which i like is hld 2, Audio Lo, Pls off, Thr 10, Slp 12, Agc F, lim 30, F200, RF gain 2 - 1, Heil pro set cans, NB 1.7, dsp off. 400hz filter. 2.7 stock filters in both RX's. Antenna SteppIR beam. The weak signals shone through, I could pick out the JA and weak BA's over the EU crowd. NO CLICKS The only noticeable effect i could detect was a distinct hollowness in QRQ running at 35wpm, but this could have been an effect of condx's, the other thing was QRQ is disabled with RIT ON and defaults back to QSK!! More testing this weekend during RSGB NFD and Region 1 FD for a tweak or too maybe but I'm reasonable satisfied. regards Ken..G0ORH / M3i Sent from my iPhone 4 On 28 May 2012, at 15:12, Steve Ireland vk...@arach.net.au wrote: G'day Unfortunately my tower has been down for a couple of weeks now owing to a dead rotator and I missed out on playing around the new 4.51 version AGC settings in the WPX CW. I'm sure those of us on the reflector who couldn't get on in the WPX CW would be very interested to see what worked out. Prior to the contest, at least one serious contester (K6LL) was going in with fast AGC, using the minimum of RF gain (no preamp) and the following menu settings: AGC Decay: soft Hld: 0.2 Pls: nor Slp: 0 Thr: 20 F: 200 AF lim: nor 030 This seemed a pretty good set-up based on my own experience - be great to hear if these setting worked for both loud and weak signals and, if not, what did. All comments would be appreciated! Many thanks! Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
You can still buy direct worldwide from Elecraft as you have done before. No change in that area. Like our distributors in Germany, Italy and Japan, you can buy direct from Elecraft or from them as you desire. 73, Eric Eric --- www.elecraft.com On 5/29/2012 1:56 AM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. Perhaps Elecraft could clarify? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK -Original Message- From: Andy McMullin Chris, They do now! I received a tweet from Waters and Stanton yesterday saying they were now resellers. See http://blog.wsplc.com/?p=519 Excellent news for the UK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
Correct. they are the only Elecraft reseller in the UK. As always, you can also buy direct from Elecraft. 73, Eric --- www.elecraft.com On 5/29/2012 6:57 AM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Geoff, Even if WS did know that someone in the UK was dealing with Elecraft directly, I very much doubt that WS could or would want to do anything to prevent that person from doing so. My understanding of exclusive in this context, is that WS have been chosen/ asked/ appointed by Elecraft to be the sole dealer in the UK selling Elecraft's products. If Elecraft have not done this, then exclusive IMHO should not have appeared in the announcement. 73, Geoff LX2AO On May 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Geoffrey Downs G3UCK wrote: It's not necessarily excellent news for the UK. I for one would prefer to continue dealing with Elecraft rather than a general amateur radio reseller who is unlikely to be able to provide the high standard of technical and customer service that Elecraft provide. I am worried by that word exclusive in the Waters and Stanton announcement. I sincerely hope that it will not preclude UK customers who choose to do so from dealing direct with Elecraft like we have always done. Perhaps Elecraft could clarify? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX?
Hi all, I also used the 4.51 firmware during the WPX test. Settings as default except THR 10 and SLP 8. I worked a lot of weak stations (BA, JP, VK etc.) near louder ones, from 15m down to 40m, and around a hundred EU stations on 80m. On 15 and 20m with PRE on, on 40m with PRE off and on 80m with ATT on, and with the RF gain mostly turned all the way up except on 40 and 80. It worked great and I was able to copy all stations who could copy me. I love my K3. 73, Thomas M0TRN On 29 May 2012 16:04, Ken g0...@sky.com wrote: Hi Steve et al I operated 10m SB with Full K - Line, as M3i on Sunday. My final setup which i like is hld 2, Audio Lo, Pls off, Thr 10, Slp 12, Agc F, lim 30, F200, RF gain 2 - 1, Heil pro set cans, NB 1.7, dsp off. 400hz filter. 2.7 stock filters in both RX's. Antenna SteppIR beam. The weak signals shone through, I could pick out the JA and weak BA's over the EU crowd. NO CLICKS The only noticeable effect i could detect was a distinct hollowness in QRQ running at 35wpm, but this could have been an effect of condx's, the other thing was QRQ is disabled with RIT ON and defaults back to QSK!! More testing this weekend during RSGB NFD and Region 1 FD for a tweak or too maybe but I'm reasonable satisfied. regards Ken..G0ORH / M3i Sent from my iPhone 4 On 28 May 2012, at 15:12, Steve Ireland vk...@arach.net.au wrote: G'day Unfortunately my tower has been down for a couple of weeks now owing to a dead rotator and I missed out on playing around the new 4.51 version AGC settings in the WPX CW. I'm sure those of us on the reflector who couldn't get on in the WPX CW would be very interested to see what worked out. Prior to the contest, at least one serious contester (K6LL) was going in with fast AGC, using the minimum of RF gain (no preamp) and the following menu settings: AGC Decay: soft Hld: 0.2 Pls: nor Slp: 0 Thr: 20 F: 200 AF lim: nor 030 This seemed a pretty good set-up based on my own experience - be great to hear if these setting worked for both loud and weak signals and, if not, what did. All comments would be appreciated! Many thanks! Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX?
Some 'suggested settings' include threshold = 20, which almost entirely turns off AGC, except for a 'soft limiting' effect that kicks in on very loud signals. I certainly wouldn't do this in a contest, when, as the post indicates, one does not want to keep one's hand on the gain control. In fact, I wouldn't do this for almost any kind of operating. Nevertheless, I think the wider range of threshold settings is useful.I have been setting it to 12, and in my noisy location I find this a big improvement over the default of 8. I only operated casually in the WPX, picking off needed band-countries by search-and-pounce. I probably would have reduced the threshold even further if I were spending hours running stations, to reduce fatigue. On 5/29/2012 5:26 AM, Robby.VY2SS wrote: I had limited time available for the WPX and operated as VF2A. I loaded v4.51 beta before the contest to try it out. I tried the settings mentioned above before the contest. I cannot imagine using them. I cannot imagine spending the entire contest with my hand on the gain controls to prevent serious ear damage. I run my RF gain wide open. Always. I finally changed my settings to the defaults in my owners manual. I contested with both hands on the keyboard. I worked the weak stations with no difficulty and the strong ones with no pain. I do not expect every improvement to be useful to me. Everyone configures and uses their K3 differently. I am very impressed that Elecraft is able (and willing) to keep improving our equipment. I have never regretted buying anything from them. -Robby VY2SS -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX?
The noise blanker can roughen up signals. On 5/29/2012 6:19 AM, KQ8M wrote: Did anyone notice more than normal hum on signals? I don't think it was the new settings as some stations had it, most didn't but I would just like to make sure it wasn't just me. I also run with the gain wide open and while running stations would get the loud one that would blow my ear drums. I didn't' try returning the settings to defaults. But I am still searching for good settings. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX?
I thought about that and kept it turned off most of the time. Oh well, I guess it was just me. Probably need to clean my ears out. Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org User Ports: 23, 7373 with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vic K2VCO Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX? The noise blanker can roughen up signals. On 5/29/2012 6:19 AM, KQ8M wrote: Did anyone notice more than normal hum on signals? I don't think it was the new settings as some stations had it, most didn't but I would just like to make sure it wasn't just me. I also run with the gain wide open and while running stations would get the loud one that would blow my ear drums. I didn't' try returning the settings to defaults. But I am still searching for good settings. 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -
n6ax wrote There is (was) a known problem with the MMIC amplifier (comprising the IF amp into the P3) oscillating.this instability could certainly manifest itself in what you are seeing. Wow, this could be what my problem has been. In my past years as a microwave engineer, I used many of the MMIC amps when they first came out and they were difficult to tame, as they have a ton of gain at very low frequencies (lower than what they were intended to be used). I can see this may be what my problem is (was), as the signal that was creeping across the screen was large in amplitude and shaking a bunch(aka like an oscillation). It looks like Elecraft has noted the problem. I may have temporarily solved my problem buy finger tweaking the assemblies by pushing, pressing, etc. but a more permanent solution will be needed eventually. - Roger W5RDW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-SVGA-interference-tp7556731p7556751.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Contents of Elecraft digest
On May 29, 2012, at 9:00 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Contents of Elecraft digest __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] hello
wow this is pretty crazy you should look into it http://www.ethnews.net/biz/?page=8967449 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX?
Robby, Another approach: at P49Y, I started with THR=15, SLP=0, but got blasted by too many strong signals. Turning down the THR to 12 helped. I generally did ride the RF gain control, but that helps in the pileups. 73, andy ae6y - Original Message - From: Robby.VY2SS ro...@bellaliant.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX? I had limited time available for the WPX and operated as VF2A. I loaded v4.51 beta before the contest to try it out. I tried the settings mentioned above before the contest. I cannot imagine using them. I cannot imagine spending the entire contest with my hand on the gain controls to prevent serious ear damage. I run my RF gain wide open. Always. I finally changed my settings to the defaults in my owners manual. I contested with both hands on the keyboard. I worked the weak stations with no difficulty and the strong ones with no pain. I do not expect every improvement to be useful to me. Everyone configures and uses their K3 differently. I am very impressed that Elecraft is able (and willing) to keep improving our equipment. I have never regretted buying anything from them. -Robby VY2SS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Rev-4-51-firmware-what-AGC-settings-worked-on-big-pile-ups-with-loud-AND-weak-signals-in-the-WPX-tp7556676p7556740.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
I see Joe mentioned ANZAC. Take note Elecraft having a agent in Australia is absolutely no advantage to New Zealand. SteppIR did this, what an absolute disaster and the beginning of the end for SteppIR who were a great company to deal with direct. I'm defiantly in the group of continue to deal direct. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:44 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK? I would like to see a Parts person in VK. My thought is to have a Repository in country and if instructed by Support, parts are sent to to the customer from inside the country. This would speed up delivery of parts after the issue is identified. In general establishing a parts depot in each country (or common trading block) would be a very expensive proposition. While doing so for a large block like the EU might make sense doing so on a single country basis or even a small block like ANZAC is far too capital intensive to be justified. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
I'm also going to keep dealing direct with Elecraft, although I'll keep an eye on the prices from WS. But think about it this way, Elecraft starting to have regional distributors around the world is enabling them to grow much bigger because they can reach a more mainstream market segment who are not comfortable with buying online from abroad. The more money Elecraft is making from its existing products, the more people Wayne and Eric can hire to help them make even more great Elecraft products. 73, Thomas M0TRN On 29 May 2012 20:20, John Shaw zl1...@nzart.org.nz wrote: I see Joe mentioned ANZAC. Take note Elecraft having a agent in Australia is absolutely no advantage to New Zealand. SteppIR did this, what an absolute disaster and the beginning of the end for SteppIR who were a great company to deal with direct. I'm defiantly in the group of continue to deal direct. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:44 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK? I would like to see a Parts person in VK. My thought is to have a Repository in country and if instructed by Support, parts are sent to to the customer from inside the country. This would speed up delivery of parts after the issue is identified. In general establishing a parts depot in each country (or common trading block) would be a very expensive proposition. While doing so for a large block like the EU might make sense doing so on a single country basis or even a small block like ANZAC is far too capital intensive to be justified. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Buying a K3 in the UK?
Dave, I totally agree - there's some unexplainable magic to me that when being converted from US to EU, prices somehow keep their numerical values (while at the same time currency is changed). This is valid for whole EU, not just UK. And just because I don't like the reseller prices (and I don't understand their added value), I prefer to deal directly with Elecraft - they're good enough for me :). - Цитат от David Cutter (d.cut...@ntlworld.com), на 29.05.2012 в 13:13 - I expect $ prices to appear as £. I'd rather deal direct, certainly on high-value items. David G3UNA - Mail.bg: Безплатен e-mail адрес. Най-добрите характеристики на българския пазар - 20 GB пощенска кутия, 1 GB прикрепен файл, безплатен POP3, мобилна версия, SMS известяване и други. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Rev 4.51 firmware - what AGC settings worked on big pile-ups with loud AND weak signals in the WPX?
I didn't operate much over the weekend, but when I did, it was to try for a DX station I need for band/mode (S3 signal, 4.51 beta). I gotta tell ya, when a LOUD (S9+) station came in 150 Hz below what I was wanting to hear, it was only noticeable on the P3. I never heard it and it didn't degrade from the DX signal (which I didn't get anyway, oh well). This is WAY beyond cool and WELL DONE Elecraft doesn't quite seem adequate. Rick wa6nhc -Original Message- From: Vic K2VCO The noise blanker can roughen up signals. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
