Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Richard Davis
Bill, What are the characteristics of signals on 6 meters that are propagated by sporadic-E? How would I recognize that s-E is in effect? Richard K5BWV === Bill W5WVO wrote: Don Rasmussen wrote: Are there more sporadic E

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
Volatile signal levels - can be there for a few seconds to a few minutes or even an hour. Signals you receive come more-or-less from roughly a single direction (N, S, E, W). A big advantage of the bandscope on the IC-7800 / IC-7700 - you suddenly see the band coming to life. Simon Brown,

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Bill W5WVO
Generally all very true! Except for when it isn't. :-) One of the things you can depend on about 6m -- probably the only thing, actually -- is that it will fool you. I've experienced 6m sporadic-E openings when signals were very strong and rock-solid for hours on end, and coming in from

RE: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Darwin, Keith
I've never been on 6. Never. My K3 will cover it so I'm gonna give it a try. What do I need for an antenna? Will a multi-band vertical like the Hy-Gain AV-620 give good performance on 6 meters? Should I put up a 2 or 3 element yagi? I'm lazy and very busy so building something just isn't

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
Start with a 5/8 vertical or a 2 or 3 ele yagi as you suggest, polarisation can be all over the place. Lots of SSB 50.1 - 50.2 and CW 50.08 - 50.1 (-ish). Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've never been on 6.

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread K8TB
Darwin, Keith wrote: I've never been on 6. Never. My K3 will cover it so I'm gonna give it a try. What do I need for an antenna? A 3 element beam would be nice, but to start, a Squalo type antenna (horizontal) will work just fine for Es openings. Look at the KU4AB:

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread K8TB
Also, Keep an ear on 50.060 to 50.080 for the CW beacons. Last summer I would park my radio on 50.062 to hear the W9DR beacon from Florida. If I hear that, I can work anyone in Florida from Michigan. k8tb ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Brian Alsop
For another view on 6 meters see: http://www.kh2d.net/opinions/article.cfm?id=14 While somewhat tongue in cheek, there is a lot of truth to it. You have to look at the joint probability of the band being open and you being at your rig. For some, this joint probability approaches zero.

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Bill W5WVO
Keith, You'll have much better success with a small yagi than with a vertical. A three-element yagi (Cushcraft 3-element is cheap) will have wide enough a beamwidth so you can get away (most of the time) without rotating it. At least this will give you a taste of what it's like. :-) 90% of

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread DW Holtman
Holtman WB7SSN - Original Message - From: Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT Start with a 5/8 vertical or a 2 or 3 ele yagi as you suggest, polarisation can be all over

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread T. David Yarnes
help a lot. I'm sure others have some good suggestions for you. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:45 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT I've never been on 6. Never

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Bill W5WVO
Brian Alsop wrote: You have to look at the joint probability of the band being open and you being at your rig. For some, this joint probability approaches zero. During the Es season, you will get plenty of openings if you're available weekday evenings and/or weekends. Just leave the radio

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
As has already been said there does not seem to be any correlation between a sloar cycle and the occurrence of sporadic E (Es) openings on 6m, certainly at temperate latitudes. But something worth watching for during years of high solar activity, especially around the time of an equinox, are

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Joseph Trombino Jr
You don't need a whole lot antenna-wise to be able to work 6 meters when sporadic E appears or even when we get F2 at a sunspot peak. If you have an antenna tuner that covers 6 meters or can build a simple tuner for 6 meters, just try out your HF antenna and see if it will load. I have used

RE: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-02 Thread Brendan Minish
On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 05:45 -0700, Darwin, Keith wrote: I've never been on 6. Never. My K3 will cover it so I'm gonna give it a try. I have 42 US states worked on 6m, including most of the west coast ones, thing is that I am located in Ireland! 6m is a fun band this is a good place to

[Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-01 Thread Don Rasmussen
Are there more sporadic E openings on 6 meters closer to the sunspot cycle maximum? How bad is a poor Summer for 6m CW SSB, and on average how often does that happen as compared to a decent Summer of stateside DX on 6 meters? [Elecraft] K3 on 6 Meters Bill W5WVO w5wvo at cybermesa.net Tue

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-01 Thread Ed Gray W0SD
Mentioned is a sixth reason to my recent post of additional reasons besides contesting for a 1.8 filter for SSB. Six Meter sporadic E signals can be very, very loud and band conditions often change rapidly so two stations very close to each can appear very suddenly through no fault of their

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-01 Thread Bill W5WVO
Don Rasmussen wrote: Are there more sporadic E openings on 6 meters closer to the sunspot cycle maximum? No. There has never been any credible evidence that the solar cycle affects sporadic-E one way or the other. You can't prove a negative, but there is certainly no observable correlation

Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meter Questions - OT

2008-04-01 Thread Bill W5WVO
Absolutely, Ed! This really should be understood clearly by 6m newbies with only HF experience. Sporadic-E is different than F2 in two important ways: 1) Sporadic-E is localized and dynamic. The sporadic-E clouds, as they are called, are sometimes quite small and localized. And they move,