Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-26 Thread Dave G3WGN M6O
Thanks Joe for a very helpful note. This will materially aid my 'birdie hunting' when I upgrade S/N 4474 with new synths and internal preamp in a couple of weeks time. 73 Dave G3WGN M6O WJ6O -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-25 Thread Ken_ke2n via Elecraft
My K3 with the new synth (and upgraded DSP board) has an unfortunate birdy on 50.276 (unfortunate because this is the JT65 calling frequency in the US). I know it is a DSP-type artifact because the pitch of the birdy changes with the IF Shift control. The IF shift control does not change the

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-25 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The spur also changes with bandwidth. In my K3 it happens to fall at 50.279.00 with FC=1.50, BW=2.80 in DATA_A when the rig is at 50.276.00. When going to FC=2.20, BW=4.00 the spur moves to ~50.285.5 and in USB NORM it falls at 50.275.71 (zero beat). Again, this is fortunate in that the spur

[Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread Dave G3WGN M6O
Is there anyone out there yet who has done a detailed study of 6m birdies with the new synth and either external or internal preamp? A good friend with an early K3 is reluctant to upgrade to K3S as he hears a couple of dozen birdies on 6m with antenna disconnected. So how has this aspect of K3

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread Brian Hemmis
David, Your friend states there are 2 dozen birdies on 6 meters with the antenna DISCONNECTED. This tells me nothing. Please tell him to connect a RESONANT 6 meter antenna to the radio then tell me how many birdies he hears. 73, Brian K3USC On Jun 23, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Wayne Burdick

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread Wayne Burdick
David, When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally generated spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had roughly the same number. This is consistent with both being high-level signal sources; you can't get rid of spurs entirely. All but a very few are masked

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Yes indeed. Checking for birdies or any such with an unterminated antenna jack is invalid. You can terminate with a dummy load, or more practically with an antenna listening to normal band noise. 73, Guy K2AV On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, Brian Hemmis bhem...@mac.com wrote: David, Your friend

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread David Aslin G3WGN
...@aslinvc.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards Yes indeed. Checking for birdies or any such with an unterminated antenna jack is invalid. You can terminate with a dummy load, or more practically with an antenna listening to normal band noise. 73, Guy K2AV On Tuesday, June

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread David Aslin G3WGN
) To: David Aslin G3WGN da...@aslinvc.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards David, When we designed the K3S, we very carefully evaluated internally generated spurs on all bands. We found that the KSYN3 and KSYN3A had roughly the same number

Re: [Elecraft] 6m birdies and K3S and/or new synth boards

2015-06-23 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,6/23/2015 10:44 AM, Brian Hemmis wrote: David, Your friend states there are 2 dozen birdies on 6 meters with the antenna DISCONNECTED. This tells me nothing. Please tell him to connect a RESONANT 6 meter antenna to the radio then tell me how many birdies he hears. It tells me a LOT.