Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-23 Thread Charles Hardt
22, 2021 10:25 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [EXT]: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas? I am considering purchasing a Chamaeleon MPAS Lite and from what I gather from advertisements they require an external wide range antenna tuner to work. I have

Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-23 Thread Alan Bloom
On 3/23/2021 11:51 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote: I am often amazed at how well my tuners match some really outlandish antennas. My KX2 loads up the aluminum rain gutter outside my window just fine on 80 through 10 meters.  (I do have 1/4-wave counterpoise wires for 40, 20 and 10 meters.) Alan N1AL

Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-23 Thread Jim Rhodes
Since this is the Elecraft reflector I will go out on a limb and guess you are using an Elecraft rig with an internal tuner. If so you already have a wide range tuner in the rig and do not need an external tuner. I am often amazed at how well my tuners match some really outlandish antennas.

Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-23 Thread cp0004
Jeff- If you look on Youtube, Thomas Witherspoon K4SWL has a channel (in his name) and he has a few videos where he is using his KX2 with the Chamaleon antennas and uses the internal ATU to tune them. Looks like he is very responsive to questions so you should be able to get some good feedback

Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-23 Thread Tim Tucker
Since noone has actually answered the specific question... A few years ago, I was told by the Owner of Chamelon that the CHA Hybrid-Micro used in that kit as the base & matching unit is 5:1 Unun. The manual of the kit has an SWR plot for various types of radiating elements that can be used: the

Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-22 Thread rich
et On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 15:04 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas? On 3/22/2021 8:24 AM, Jeff Grillo wrote: > I have a kx2 with the internal tuner. I am guessing there is something beyon

Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/22/2021 8:24 AM, Jeff Grillo wrote: I have a kx2 with the internal tuner. I am guessing there is something beyond my paygrade as to why this would not be sufficient? Antenna tuners do not make antennas work better, they simply help the rig provide power to the feedline by matching the

Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-22 Thread Dan Presley
I absolutely concur with Walter-a simple wire antenna will be easier to setup and use,and with the exceptional internal tuner of the KX2 there’s no reason to spend for anything else. Although it’s not as efficient the AX1/AEX1 might be worth considering as it may be easy to setup for you

Re: [Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-22 Thread Walter Underwood
With the KX2 ATU, save your money and don’t get the MPAS Lite. Use the setup described on page 10 of the KX2 manual, two wires connected to a double binding post adapter on the radio. That will be lighter, cheaper, and more efficient than the Chameleon antenna. SOTAbeams has nice wire winders

[Elecraft] Are external tuners really needed with Chamaeleon antennas?

2021-03-22 Thread Jeff Grillo
I am considering purchasing a Chamaeleon MPAS Lite and from what I gather from advertisements they require an external wide range antenna tuner to work. I have a kx2 with the internal tuner. I am guessing there is something beyond my paygrade as to why this would not be sufficient? If anyone