Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-13 Thread Geoffrey Downs
Thank you Don (W3FPR), Jack (K8ZOA) and Larry (N8LP) for your interesting comments on this thread last week and for taking the trouble to set them down so clearly. My technical expertise in this area is no match for yours although I did make my first, fairly unsophisticated, indicator of forward

[Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-05 Thread Jack Smith
A wattmeter built around a directional coupler always has to deal with finite coupler directivity. Making the problem more difficult is that we expect a wattmeter to be accurate over a rather wide frequency range, 1.8 to 30 or even 50 MHz. This places an even greater burden upon the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-05 Thread N8LP
Several interesting topics have arisen in this discussion. Here are a couple comments... 1) Most wattmeters use a diode peak detector for each of the coupler ports (FWD, REF). The forward voltage drop of the diodes becomes an increasing source of error as power is lowered. The means than for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-04 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
Take any SWR meter and insert it at different locations along the length of the feeder and you will get different readings. Other than SWR reduction due to cable loss, the SWR meter should read the same SWR regardless of where it is on the coax. Picture the constant SWR circles on a Smith

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-04 Thread Steve Ellington
...@tx.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication Take any SWR meter and insert it at different locations along the length of the feeder and you will get different readings. Other than SWR reduction due to cable loss, the SWR

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-04 Thread Geoffrey Downs
- Original Message - From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com It appears that your coax does not exactly match the impedance of your dipole (It rarely does) - Thank you Steve for your comments. I fully accept about a probable mismatch between

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-04 Thread Terry Schieler
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication In the past week I've been tuning and pruning an inverted V dipole I've put up for 40m, fed with coax. The job isn't finished yet but I'm noticing significant differences between SWR readings on my K3 and an external LP100A

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-04 Thread Paul Christensen
Other than SWR reduction due to cable loss, the SWR meter should read the same SWR regardless of where it is on the coax. Some reasons for changes in indicated VSWR as measured at different points along the line: 1) Line loss. As line loss increases, VSWR will show a better reading closer

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-04 Thread Steve Ellington
@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication - Original Message - From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com It appears that your coax does not exactly match the impedance of your dipole (It rarely does

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-04 Thread Geoffrey Downs
- Original Message - From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com Geoff Try putting a 50 ohm dummy load in line and see if the K3 and your ext. meters read the same swr. This will take reactance and inbalance out of the picture. Thanks Steve. I did try that and with a 50 ohm dummy

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-04 Thread Robert Friess
Hello Geoff, Which bands were you making the comparison on? Bob, N6CM On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Geoffrey Downs geoff...@downs.globalnet.co.uk wrote: - Original Message - From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com Geoff Try putting a 50 ohm dummy load in line and see if the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Geoff, That test at 50 ohms substantiates that the wattmeters are properly balanced for a 50 ohm system, and nothing more - read on if you are interested in more skepticism. Contrary to several statements made, it is quite possible that *all* those wattmeters can be wrong when reporting SWR

[Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-03 Thread Geoffrey Downs
In the past week I've been tuning and pruning an inverted V dipole I've put up for 40m, fed with coax. The job isn't finished yet but I'm noticing significant differences between SWR readings on my K3 and an external LP100A. For example: At 7.000 MHz the K3 currently shows 1.2:1 and the LP100A

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication

2009-05-03 Thread Steve Ellington
! Steve Ellington N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Geoffrey Downs geoff...@downs.globalnet.co.uk To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Indication In the past week I've been tuning and pruning an inverted V dipole I've