Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but
disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over. There is little
places to go and have a CW QSO anymore. Most of the CW ops nowadays seem
to be contesters so you either join them or stay off the air. There seems
now there's a thought, definitely have to study for my advanced if for
no other reason than to get away from all them contesters. although it
might be fun to jump in there and see just what this contesting business
is all about.
On 19/03/2008 10:05 PM, the old scribe known as Charlotte Bob
Is this actually true? I'm not clear on what happened in the US with
no longer requiring a Morse cert. and would like someone to set me
straight (I really mean that, I'd like to understand the real story).
My understanding is:
1) the requirement for a morse cert was removed from the license
you know, once you remove the requirement for someone to do something in
order to gain a qualification or a certificate of proficiency, or the
like, there's more insentive to go learn it for the fun of it. if you're
required to do the thing, then it's alot less enjoyable.
On 19/03/2008 10:35
David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
In the UK, this same action in 2003 has resulted in more newcomers
(since Morse is no longer an obstacle) and in fact, more people wishing
to learn Morse (myself included) since on using HF, it becomes clear
just how significant CW is to making contacts,
I think I'd agree with that assessment also. it takes a certain mindset
to use morse and not everybody is built for it. having said that, it
doesn't mean the practise should die out.
On 19/03/2008 11:17 PM, the old scribe known as Jan Erik Holm was able
to impart this pearl of wisdom:
David
Listening from my QTH it appears activity is low on
all modes, including local 2m FM which died to nothing
10 years ago.
40m CW activity has lessened in the past few years,
but it's still the place to be. 80m CW is sad,
nothing there unless a weekend contest. On higher
frequencies unable to tell
I am a ham now simply because I became aware that I didn't need Morse
- in my mind I had discounted being a ham, because I always thought
Morse was a requirement (from the age of 16). I wasn't aware of the
class B license (right term?) and it wasn't until I was involved in an
International
It's like the automobile. Same old dirty, greasy, loud internal combustion
engine under the hood, that's been around for over a hundred years. The only
difference is the electronics like GPS navigation, DVD players, stereo
systems, etc. Lots of lights and buttons but, it still does the same
and 73
Bob N6WG
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From: Shaun Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Charlotte Bob Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
now there's a thought
6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
Since the FCC decided to throw away Morse code, courtesy has all but
disappeared, and contests have almost totally taken over. There is
little places to go and have a CW QSO anymore. Most of the CW ops
nowadays seem to be contesters so
W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED];
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver [OT]
Is this actually true? I'm not clear on what happened in the US with no
longer requiring a Morse cert. and would like someone to set me straight
(I
Although there isn't as much cw on during non-contest times as there was
when I was licensed in '79, there are a number of ragchews going on during
the day on 40m during the day and some dx at night/early morning here in the
Midwest.
I'd like for the people who think CW is dead to listen to
There is way less casual CW operation than there was in '79, '89, and
even '99. Except for contesting and DXing, CW is close to being dead.
Foreign phones, RTTY data stations in the lower portions of the CW
bands and the ARRL/FCC elimination of CW-testing will finish it off. If
I thought there
N7AF:
There is way less casual CW operation than there was in '79, '89, and
even '99. Except for contesting and DXing, CW is close to being dead.
Foreign phones, RTTY data stations in the lower portions of the CW
bands and the ARRL/FCC elimination of CW-testing will finish it off. If
I
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
I'm sorry to sound like some kind of whining bitch, but, is it me, or is
amateur radio fast becoming a pissing contest of sorts to see who has the
flashiest rig at the cost of a new car. I for one refuse to spend that
amount of money on a hobby I
I'm a casual CW operator and I like to rag chew. I agree that there is less
activity than in past years. One indication for me is that I keep working the
same stations which rarely happened when I was first licensed. I am also
another one this is hesitant to order a K3 at this time. The K2
If you are not participating in a contest, it is often a good time to
get on the WARC bands.
73, Bob N7XY
On Mar 19, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Gary D Krause wrote:
This is a subject that pops up from time to time. You do have a
point. I usually end up going to 30 or 17 meters to avoid the
Yea but probably 70% of hams are either dead and not logged yet or
inactive. Then you've got 20% that does casual operation and contesting
and then you've got the 10% in the middle that complain about the
contests. Yet still the majority of the people on the air I fully well
believe participate
If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
contest grade transceiver, take a look at this link.
Reading their brochure is a real hoot!! During the next
10 days it will be making its official debut.
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/Default.aspx?Category=180
A very nice front panel with a bandscope for watching those 6m / 10m
openings, it is shipping in Europe already.
+ Extensive CAT support.
+ The most visually appealing new radio I have seen for quite a while.
- Very slow website at the moment :-(
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
About $6k, GBP 3,400 + tax.
+ Scans 6m
- No IF Shift / Width adjust knobs (does have LO / HI though).
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
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From: Shaun Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I bet it's got a nice price tag too.
I bet it's got a nice price tag too.
On 18/03/2008 7:12 PM, the old scribe known as Simon Brown (HB9DRV) was
able to impart this pearl of wisdom:
A very nice front panel with a bandscope for watching those 6m / 10m
openings, it is shipping in Europe already.
+ Extensive CAT support.
+ The
W7is wrote:
If your interested in seeing the latest offering of a
contest grade transceiver, take a look at this link.
Reading their brochure is a real hoot!! During the next
10 days it will be making its official debut.
Not news. IC-7700 was announced about the same time
I'm sorry to sound like some kind of whining bitch, but, is it me, or is
amateur radio fast becoming a pissing contest of sorts to see who has
the flashiest rig at the cost of a new car. I for one refuse to spend
that amount of money on a hobby I know I'll get alot of fun out of. I'm
not
don't get me wrong, the newer radios have their place. case in point,
the kenwood ts480 and the ts2000 with a vs3 board, a blind ham could use
the things with little fuss. I will eventually be a blind ham also but
I'm opting for an older radio because I'm on a strict budget. I'm
currently
Hmm,
if you adjust for inflation this new 7700 is a bit cheaper in real terms
in Europe than the Kenwood TS940SAT was at launch time.
the 7700 is a much better featured radio than the 940.
73
Brendan EI6IZ
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 21:58 +1100, Shaun Oliver wrote:
I'm sorry to sound like some
I wonder if that is the rig that the Clipperton group is using right now?
I can just see the ads come Dayton time
73,
Henry - K4TMC
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With a 7 inch (800 X 480) TFT color display, it's a shame you can't watch
YouTube. Maybe on the II or III version.
Tom, AK2B
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I saw one at Dayton last year at the Contest University. It is as big as a
suitcase. The guy from Icom characterized it as a 7800 without the second
receiver. Yawn Snore
I'll be keeping my K3, thank you.
Buck
k4ia
K3 #101
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Nice looking rig,
Howeverit still only has 1 receiver. Elecraft stated they will
eventually have a pan adaptor/bandscope option for the K3. If you've read
the recent test results, the K3 meets and sometimes, beats the 7700's big
brother. And to add insult to injury, I dare venture that one
You guys have it all wrong.
The IC-7700 is CLEARLY the better choice. No question.
K3 is $2000 - $3000. I can *almost* afford that. It's a great rig so
I'm tempted. Ah, what the hey, I'll just order one. Tension with XYL
ensues, finances are stressed, life becomes a bit more difficult.
I agree with you also, Julian. I've always thought keeping it simple is the
key to many things. I still have a couple of older rigs that I love to
operate along with my K2. They don't have the bells and whistles that the
modern rigs have. I've noticed that along with the computer age, the
I believe they were using Pro III's.
Dave W7AQK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
I wonder if that is the rig that the Clipperton group
...and no Auto CW function
big MINUS, nothing for me, sorry ;-)
73!
L. -dst-
Simon Brown (HB9DRV) napsal(a):
About $6k, GBP 3,400 + tax.
+ Scans 6m
- No IF Shift / Width adjust knobs (does have LO / HI though).
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
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Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:20 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
Nice looking rig,
Howeverit still only has 1 receiver. Elecraft stated they
will eventually have a pan adaptor/bandscope option for the
K3
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
I wonder if that is the rig that the Clipperton group is
using right now?
I can just see the ads come Dayton time
73,
Henry - K4TMC
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After reading the owners manual on this new 7700
rig, the only thing I found unusual is the
Auto Tune feature on both CW and AM.
Beside being large heavy with no sub receiver -- another downer is
the 4 large fans and the potential to be very noisy like some of their
other gear.
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From: Shaun Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Contest Transceiver
I'm sorry to sound like some kind of whining bitch, but, is it me, or is
amateur radio fast becoming a pissing
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