Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-14 Thread Russ
The myths have been busted 30 years ago. I Recommend reading Walt Maxwell's Reflections or his series of articles in QST in the early 70's. Or you can just go to his website w2du.com and read the SWT Mythbuster in action. Russ, N3CO - Original Message - From: Peter Howson [EMAIL

[Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Top banders use RG6 all the time and run full bore (and then some) through it. At 1 Mhz, it is rated at 4kw. If you're only interested in 100 watts output (you didn't say what frequency you operate), you're good to go with RG6 up to 1GHz. The white stuff is so cheap, you can replace it every 5

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Samuel Strongin
, November 13, 2007 6:28 AM Subject: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc Top banders use RG6 all the time and run full bore (and then some) through it. At 1 Mhz, it is rated at 4kw. If you're only interested in 100 watts output (you didn't say what frequency you operate), you're good to go

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
You use it because of 2 characteristics. 1) It has lower loss than an equal physical size 50 ohm cable - and that is true even considering the added loss due to mismatch. 2) It is conviently available and inexpensive. Considering the added loss due to a 1.5 SWR, look at the charts. If the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread n2ey
-Original Message- From: Samuel Strongin [EMAIL PROTECTED] RG6 is 75 ohm cable. Why would you buy a great radio and worry about performance,then go use the wrong cable. You start out at a 1.5:1 swr. Because RG-6 may not be the wrong cable, and the SWR may not be 1.5 to 1. IMHO, the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Samuel Strongin
] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc You use it because of 2 characteristics. 1) It has lower loss than an equal physical size 50 ohm cable - and that is true even considering the added loss due to mismatch. 2) It is conviently available and inexpensive. Considering the added loss due to a 1.5 SWR

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
as antenna. - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Samuel Strongin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc You use it because

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Mark Bayern
A couple of points: 1 -- While the feedline might have a 1.5:1 swr, a tuner at the rig can allow the rig to see it as 1.0:1. 2 -- If the feedpoint of the antenna has an impedance close to 75 ohms, RG-6 would be the _correct_ feedline to use. (Correct meaning best match to the antenna and lowest

[Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Barry N1EU
KR2Q penned: Top banders use RG6 all the time and run full bore (and then some) through it. At 1 Mhz, it is rated at 4kw. Doug, where did you find that spec? From what I know, most flavors of RG6 lack the voltage rating to instill confidence in putting a lot of power down the line. Yes,

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Mike S
At 10:16 AM 11/13/2007, Samuel Strongin wrote... just use the cheapest piece of junk and try to justify it. The fact of the matter 1.5 does matter.For example Icom radios fold back when seeing a swr of 1.5 to one. Remind me to never buy an Icom. Who would want a radio which can't be used

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Doug Person
Actually, I've found Icoms to be much more tolerant of SWR issues then Yaesu. When you consider that most (90% or more?) recent rigs have built in antenna tuners that can match up to 150 ohms minimum, the idea of 72 VS: 52 seems trivially unimportant. Mike S wrote: At 10:16 AM 11/13/2007,

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Peter Howson
I have been following this thread and find it very interesting, particularly as a Mechanical Engineer I have to read it slowly but may I comment -- 1, I don't know the details of Icom's protection system, but the ones I have seen sense reflected power, well actually it will be the voltage

Re: [Elecraft] OT: pwr rating of RG6, etc

2007-11-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Peter (and interested others), You might want to peruse the article Antennas, Transmission Lines, and Tuners at my website http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com. The article tries to flatten several myths in terms that should be understood by most hams - no math, but I believe a good explanation of