Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-20 Thread Don Ehrlich
Bill, My own treadmill causes severe interference here in the house. I'm the only one who uses it so it does not affect my own radio but it blanks out any AM radio in the house that happens to be turned on. I reduced the noise to an insignificant level by simply plugging a few microfarads of

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-20 Thread Steven Pituch
Hi All, I had mentioned previously that I just ordered a nice treadmill after a lot of research. When I read about this possible interference I sent an email to the company. Within an hour I got a phone call from a very knowledgeable person. He stated that as far as he knows all treadmills

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-20 Thread David Christ
Very interesting. I own a Precor treadmill. I just went down and tested it. No interference at all on 20. Didn't check anything else. Didn't pay $4500 for it either. Got it from a dealer friend of mine. It was a new one that never worked so it sat in the warehouse. He said I could have

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-20 Thread Bob
If it were me I do not think I would furnish or propose any home made device as a solution. Were there to be a failure in the treadmill shorty thereafter you can be sure where the blame would be placed. A really worse case scenario would be a fire. Then it would be a let the law suits begin

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-20 Thread Steven Pituch
Hi David, I don't know if treadmills are FCC Part 15 devices. I have not found the FCC statement in the manual for the treadmill I ordered. Part 15 devices are allowed to radiate as long as someone doesn't complain of the RFI to a licensed service. If that happens try to convince your neighbor

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bob, You are so right about that. I might further state that anything which plugs into the AC outlet must have UL or other testing lab approval stickers on it, so giving a neighbor an unapproved homebrew device opens to door for liability. 73, Don W3FPR Bob wrote: If it were me I do not

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-20 Thread Paul Christensen
I would look around for some type of commercial line filter that could be placed in the line. Before purchasing a line RFI/EMI filter, the noise path and manner of propagation requires investigation. If RFI radiation is occurring as a result of coupling from a power supply or display

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-20 Thread Don Ehrlich
Well ... a 2 horse motor (output) will be consuming about 1.5 Kw if operating at its maximum rating. Even if not maxed out it is likely to be well over the ratings of any commercial line filter that we are likely to find. Localizing the source is no problem. It is the treadmill. If the

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-19 Thread Bill Hammond
Thank you Elecraft reflector members for all of the great suggestions on this QRN problem.. With your help I was able to locate the problem. I would of not found it without your help. Now, I have no idea what to do about the issue, perhaps nothing. I now know the source. It's my neighbors

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-19 Thread Phil Hystad
We have a treadmill and it DEFINITELY radiates noise. It produces a 20/9 signal on my Icom 706 truck when I am sitting in the driveway and my wife is on the treadmill. As I drive away, I can still hear the noise as it decreases in strength until about 1 mile away where it disappears into the

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-19 Thread Ken Kopp
The SCR motor controllers, as well as the tread belts ... think Van de Graaff generator ... are significant noise sources, 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rfwave.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] OT Local QRN what is it? UPDATE!

2010-01-19 Thread David Christ
Good treadmiils use a DC motor in the 2 HP Range. If they govern the speed by driving the motor with a variable width pulse it might explain why they are so RF noisy. Given all the unshielded wiring between the controller board, the motor, and the display console it is no small wonder they