Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-15 Thread Ted Roycraft
Sorry for the somewhat off-topic post but this is the first time I have heard the Eico 720 mentioned in decades. I happen to have one if anyone is interested in buying it. Ted, W2ZK On 8/12/2015 11:06 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: Not if you're looking at an Eico 720. It will be difficult to

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim and all, I agree, the *best* way to look at keying is in the frequency domain, but for those who do not have that capability, the time domain keying waveshape can be beneficial. The P3 TX MON option does not show the frequency domain, but it can display the rise time and fall time of

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Augie Gus Hansen
On 8/12/2015 4:20 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Wed,8/12/2015 10:00 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: You *can* hook up your Eico 720 Tx and see its CW rise and fall times and perhaps use that information to dig into the radio and improve it. You've GOT to be kidding -- CW waveshaping is spectacularly

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Phil Hystad
On Aug 12, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: On Wed,8/12/2015 3:39 PM, Merv Schweigert wrote: I think hes referring to improving the Eico 720 keying shape. Sorry, I missed that. :) BUT -- the frequency domain is still the best place to be looking at the

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed,8/12/2015 10:00 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: You *can* hook up your Eico 720 Tx and see its CW rise and fall times and perhaps use that information to dig into the radio and improve it. You've GOT to be kidding -- CW waveshaping is spectacularly good already. If it ain't broke, don't try

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Alan
On 08/12/2015 03:20 PM, Jim Brown wrote: Besides, the time domain (rise/fall times) is the wrong way to look at keying. The only effective way is in the frequency domain, where the P3 with SVGA can resolve to a few Hz when set for narrow scan widths. A spectrum analyzer is the best way to

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed,8/12/2015 3:39 PM, Merv Schweigert wrote: I think hes referring to improving the Eico 720 keying shape. Sorry, I missed that. :) BUT -- the frequency domain is still the best place to be looking at the signal as you make changes. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Merv Schweigert
I think hes referring to improving the Eico 720 keying shape. On Wed,8/12/2015 10:00 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: You *can* hook up your Eico 720 Tx and see its CW rise and fall times and perhaps use that information to dig into the radio and improve it. You've GOT to be kidding -- CW

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Not if you're looking at an Eico 720. It will be difficult to identify keying sidebands amongst the drift and chirp. On 8/12/2015 3:49 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Wed,8/12/2015 3:39 PM, Merv Schweigert wrote: I think hes referring to improving the Eico 720 keying shape. Sorry, I missed that. :)

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Lyle Johnson
You *can* hook up your Eico 720 Tx and see its CW rise and fall times and perhaps use that information to dig into the radio and improve it. In SSB mode you can see the effect of the K3 Tx EQ and speech processor as it relates to peak-to-average power. And as you say it provides PWR and SWR

[Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Phil Hystad
Now that I have the P3 TX Monitor I am wondering if this is anything more than a mere light-show for entertainment. I am mostly CW and I find that the actual TX display of the CW to be a bit silly looking and contrived. In fact, it looks like something fake to me and I say that not as a

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Doug Turnbull
and enjoy; life is good. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad Sent: 12 August 2015 16:39 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness? Now that I have the P3 TX Monitor I am wondering

Re: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon Usefulness?

2015-08-12 Thread Phil Hystad
. No need to purchase a W2 wattmeter now. Smile and enjoy; life is good. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad Sent: 12 August 2015 16:39 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] P3 TX Mon