Re: [Elecraft] P3 Transmit Display Failure

2020-11-20 Thread w1ie
Carl, Chuck and Alan,,

Carl, your suggestions are good and logical ones for attempting to fix the 
PTT_KEY parameter problem , but in this case, this was a problem that was 
designed to be so by 
Elecraft. Here is Elecraft's solution to my problem:

" From your description of the issue, it sounds like you have USB.SAFE enabled 
for PTT-KEY.  This is a feature to prevent accidental transmissions when a 
computer toggles DTR and RTS lines during a reboot.  When USB.SAFE is enabled, 
it will keep PTT-KEY set to OFF-OFF until the radio receives valid serial 
commands over the serial connection.  It can be confusing, since the setting 
will show as OFF-OFF until it receives those commands.  You can toggle USB.SAFE 
off and on by tapping 1 on the keypad while viewing the PTT-KEY menu."

This was from Rob in support.

Chuck and Alan, as long as you don't tap the #1 key on the keypad while looking 
at the PTT-KEY parameter, this will not happen to you. Interestingly enough, 
the display will show UNSAFE and SAFE when in this condition and tapping the #! 
Will toggle the condition. I also think you have to have the KIOB module 
installed too. It sounds like it is USB specific and KIOA modules will not be 
affected (Ithink). 

Best regards

Jerry, W1IE


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Transmit Display Failure

2020-11-19 Thread Alan Bloom
My first thought is there might be an intermittent RS-232 connection 
between the K3 and the P3.  That would prevent the P3 receiving the TX 
and RX commands from the K3 so that the P3 gets hung up in TX or RX 
mode.  If you can lay your hands on a spare RS-232 cable, I would try it 
to see if that fixes the problem.


If the RS-232 connection is confirmed OK and the problem still occurs, then:

Have you tried cycling power without restoring the config file?  If it 
really does require the config file restoration to restore proper 
operation then it must be some setting that is accidentally getting 
changed.  That can sometimes be caused by some computer software sending 
commands to the P3 via RS-232.  Try running the K3/P3 with no RS-232 
connection to the computer and see if you still see the problem.


If the problem occurs with no connection between the K3/P3 and the 
computer and you can confirm that it does require a config restore to 
get back to normal operation, then it sounds like the EEPROM in the P3 
must be going bad.  I have never heard of that happening, but I guess 
it's possible.


Alan N1AL


On 11/18/2020 12:19 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:

I have a reoccurring issue with the P3 display of the transmit cw display. 
Occasionally, the P3 doesn't display the TX waveform ( I have never noticed if 
this happening on SSB...probably not since I have never had to fix it). The fix 
is loading a config file stored when the problem was not happening.
I have tried to store a config file when it was happening just to see and then 
restore using that file. What happens then is the P3 display locked up with a 
dit and could not be unlocked.
After this test, I had to turn off the K3s and unpower the P3, restore power 
and turn the K3s on, and restore with a copy of the config which was taken when 
the display was showing transmit cw.
I'm thinking stray RF somehow causing this but never happened on SSB...and I 
have no clue what is getting flipped in the rig or P3 to have this happen.
Since I can restore the config and fix it, I guess I'm mostly curious why it's 
happening, any ideas?

Chuck Hawley
  c-haw...@illinois.edu

  Amateur Radio, KE9UW
  aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles



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[Elecraft] P3 Transmit Display Failure

2020-11-18 Thread hawley, charles j jr
I have a reoccurring issue with the P3 display of the transmit cw display. 
Occasionally, the P3 doesn't display the TX waveform ( I have never noticed if 
this happening on SSB...probably not since I have never had to fix it). The fix 
is loading a config file stored when the problem was not happening.
I have tried to store a config file when it was happening just to see and then 
restore using that file. What happens then is the P3 display locked up with a 
dit and could not be unlocked.
After this test, I had to turn off the K3s and unpower the P3, restore power 
and turn the K3s on, and restore with a copy of the config which was taken when 
the display was showing transmit cw.
I'm thinking stray RF somehow causing this but never happened on SSB...and I 
have no clue what is getting flipped in the rig or P3 to have this happen.
Since I can restore the config and fix it, I guess I'm mostly curious why it's 
happening, any ideas?

Chuck Hawley
 c-haw...@illinois.edu

 Amateur Radio, KE9UW
 aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles
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