Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-17 Thread dl4maq
I agree with Eric; I started with the 1000Hz and the 400Hz for the cw section and was just curious about an additional 250Hz Filter: I would never put it out again. My normal work is done in the 400 range, if I want more atmosphere I open up to 1K but when it comes to contest work the 250 is a

Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-17 Thread WB8ENE
How does the loss of the 250Hz compare to the 400HZ. I would think that there would not be much difference since they only differ by 65Hz. Would someone who has used both of these filters respond to this? Thanks. Art, WB8ENE -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-17 Thread turnbull
What is the big deal with some loss in a narrow filter when the filter set up includes compensation for the loss. I bet the other filters also have insertion loss but this loss is pretty uniform and already compensated for with adequate gain. A bit of loss in the IF which is compensated for

Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-17 Thread Bill W4ZV
WB8ENE wrote: How does the loss of the 250Hz compare to the 400HZ. http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=150cat=140page=1 (see plot) http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=149cat=140page=1 (no plot) Typical Insertion Loss 250 Hz: 9 dB; 500 Hz: 7 dB Both appear to be

Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-17 Thread Olli Tuppurainen
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[Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-16 Thread n6fb
As a prospective buyer of the K3, and a 100 percent CW op, I am wondering which of the roofing filters is the correct choice, assuming I am buying only one?? I usually find that when operating weak sigs with my Pro 3, a bandwidth of about 600 to 800 hz is plenty adequate in normal QRM

Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-16 Thread Hector Padron
it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Tue, 2/16/10, n...@aol.com n...@aol.com wrote: From: n...@aol.com n...@aol.com Subject: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 6:50 PM As a prospective buyer of the K3, and a 100 percent CW op, I am

Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-16 Thread Bob - W0GI
I agree that no wider then the 500Hz. If I had umlimited money, I would add a 1000Hz to my 250Hz as it would be nice for tuning, but then tuning with the DSP set to 1000Hz it just fine. Inrad should have another batch of 1500Hz filters made up next month, and that is a nice filter for CW tuning,

Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-16 Thread Matt Zilmer
Bill, I have a very similar filter set (to Brett's as shown below), including the 250 Hz 8-pole. I find the 1 KHz is best for casual CW and digital modes, and the 250 Hz filter is best for eliminating strong adjacent signals and in CW pileups. Would have to say that I'm on the 1 KHz filter

[Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-16 Thread eric manning
I VOTE FOR 250 HZ. No ringing, I don't think I miss much as I tune around, and you can narrow it further with the DSP filtering. eric [ 250 Hz Forever!] VA7DZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-16 Thread Dave Agsten
Bill, I find that both the 200Hz and 500Hz filters work just fine. I decided to save $50 and not buy 8 pole filters. I think the 8 pole hype is somewhat just that. I have a 2nd 500Hz in the second RX.    73, Dave N8AG __

Re: [Elecraft] Roofing filter for CW

2010-02-16 Thread Bob - W0GI
I don't think it is hype, as the 8 pole filters have steepers skirts, but in practical terms, do the steeper skirts buy you much? I do know that the 250 has a lot of loss. I keep hoping I can find a 500 for $50. It would be a nice addition to the 250. :) I find that both the 200Hz and 500Hz