I got the VW thing. My first car was a 1963 white VW bug just like the one in
the Walt Disney movies. It had 15 inch wheels, independent suspension on all
four wheels, parts that could easily be replaced, air cooled engine and no
radiator to mess around with, easy to tune, oil air filter, and
I had a chance to get a pretty good look at the Icom 7700 at Dayton this
year. Also, a friend of mine who has one (and also has a K3) gave me a
pretty good demo of the 7700's features. I must say, the 7700 is
impressive. Big beautiful display, and lots of very interesting bells and
Dave, W7AQK
you said
I haven't studied the 7700's performance
ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.
Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?
Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
review on the 7700 is due June.
I think
The spec's come into play on CW but phone operators, no. Many who are mainly
phone operators that I talked to that have operated or owned the Orion,
Orion II K-3's (And I own or have owned all three) with the superior
spec's tend to gravitate back to the rig they are most comfortable
operating.
Nope, don't have one. It would be nice though! As far as I know there
aren't any detailed performance reviews published yet, but several owners
have noted that the RX is apparently the same basic design as the 7800.
Also, the Icom reps at Dayton indicated that it was essentially the same
Here's one. http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
73, Jim
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From: Robert Allbright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns
Dave, W7AQK
you said
I haven't
I find it a bit entertaining that the 7800, 10k$ rig, ended up next to
the 'build it yourself' K2. I was under the impression that the 6k$
7700 used the same receiver, and thus performance wise, placed it next
to the K2. Then I consider that the K2 has been around since the late
90's, and I
Money isn´t the answer to everything!!! This I did learn
many many moons ago.
/ SM2EKM
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Shane White wrote:
That's it, I'm going to ask the silly question.
How can the K3's receiver outperform that of the Icom IC-7800 and Yaesu
FTDX9000? These two radios cost in
Maybe you need to ask Icom and Yaesu why they charge so much for their
rigs.
Bob Serwy - N9RS
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in
If you read the eHam.net reviews for the IC-7700 one thing stands out:
'Build Quality', followed by ergonomics, people are willing to pay for this.
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6708?page=1 - well worth reading.
I would willingly pay a lot for a K3 in a 19 case.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
I would willingly pay a lot for a K3 in a 19 case.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
I think you just described the beginnings of a K4 8^)
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How many units high?
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It is
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On 16 May 2008, at 09:43, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
I would willingly
Please...please excuse me for being overly simplistic.. but, I just cannot
help myself ! :)Shane, your questions and bewilderment are certainly
understandable... but, think of it this way...
a 1-inch solid cube of lead might cost a few dollars...
a 1-inch hollow cube of gold might cost
Thanks Simon. I will.
Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
If you read the eHam.net reviews for the IC-7700 one thing stands out:
'Build Quality', followed by ergonomics, people are willing to pay for
this.
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6708?page=1 - well worth reading.
I would
Or, to make an analogy more along the lines of manufactured products...
What has better performance? A 10-ton Mack truck or a 1500-lb F1 Ferrari?
That said, there are ergonomic considerations that may be compromised in
the smaller design (as they are in the Ferrari).
73,
Dave KQ3T
Joe
How about a Cuban Cigar and a Camel Cigarette?
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It's the MOJO!!!
Gary, N7HTS
K2 with 15 watts of mojo power.
On Thu, 15 May 2008 21:06:15 -0700 (PDT)
Shane White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's it, I'm going to ask the silly question.
How can the K3's receiver outperform that of the Icom IC-7800 and Yaesu
FTDX9000? These two radios cost
On Thu, 15 May 2008 21:06:15 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
That's it, I'm going to ask the silly question.
How can the K3's receiver outperform that of the Icom IC-7800 and Yaesu
FTDX9000? These two radios cost in excess of $11,000 and weigh in at over
25Kg (55lbs)! The K3 costs about $2000 and
The experts will weigh in better than I. One can buy an Escalade or one
can buy a Tahoe. The Escalade has more bells and whistles, but doesn't
drive better or haul more than a Tahoe.
The 7800/FTdx9000 have something for everyone. A knob for every function
(or nearly). What they also have is
Japanese rigs remind me of Japanese cars. Well built products with a lot of
fluff type features and gizmos that don't contribute to the actual
performance of the car.
That's why I'll take my BMW and K2 (K3 in about 3 months or sooner I hope)
over IcomYaseuKenwood or AccuraInfinityEtc.
For me the cars analogy doesn't do it. I have a Honda and it is not a
rig with a lot of fluff.
I think about in terms of car stereos. Kenwood makes car stereo
systems. Lots of flash buttons and whiz bang features. Oh yea, it
produces sound too but that isn't really the thing they focus on.
Four years ago I bought a new Prius. Small, but big enough. A good
neighbor in terms of the environment. Efficient. Similar enough to
other cars, but quietly makes a statement. Lots of modern technology
carefully applied, but not in my face. Plenty of options to tailor the
vehicle to my
That's it, I'm going to ask the silly question.
How can the K3's receiver outperform that of the Icom IC-7800 and Yaesu
FTDX9000? These two radios cost in excess of $11,000 and weigh in at over
25Kg (55lbs)! The K3 costs about $2000 and weighs about 4Kg (8.5lbs). Yes
the K3 is deficient of a
Shane,
One could say Its all in the advertising - or its all smoke and mirrors.
Just take a look at Rob Sherwood's reports and you will see which is the
better performer (regardless of pricing) - the K3 is at the top of the list.
The K3 does not include a built-in power supply, and that may
Looks like it works out to 46.5# of fluff, at $193.54 per pound. (:-))
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Think that is bad, consider the K2 and when it came out. Late 90s.
It set the standard by which other rigs were judged.
Beyond that, now days I see a lot of folks doing things, where they
only understand the 'surface' of the problem. Considering that the
'devil is in the details', this is
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