[Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Alan Ibbetson
Hi All, I'm a new K3 owner so please be gentle. I'm not a great SSB user so I want to use my cheap PC gaming/Skype headset on the odd occasions I use sideband. It has separate 3.5mm plugs for headphones and microphone so the K3's rear panel jacks seem the obvious place for connection. The

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Walter Underwood
The MIC SEL menu item chooses between the front panel and rear panel mic jacks. I'd review the settings for that. wunder K6WRU On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Alan Ibbetson a...@g3xaq.net wrote: Hi All, I'm a new K3 owner so please be gentle. I'm not a great SSB user so I want to use my

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread bill conkling
Just don't worry about it. It'll work just fine. Follow direction in manual to set levels and be sure 'rPL bias' is selected for mic. I have used the Yamaha CM500 as well as a common Creative Labs 'desk' mic with my K3. All work well. ...bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread MontyS
Alan, The rear mic jack is a mono, not stereo, jack. It will short the ring and sleeve together. Audio is on the tip, as is the voltage. The mic should have a blocking capacitor to isolate the audio from the voltage. This is standard for every radio I have owned. If a stereo jack is

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
Alan, In most cases, the tip and ring of computer microphones are connected together. I don't know the particulars of your headset, but yours may be different. Yes, the K3 applies bias to the tip contact. It works with most microphones that way. You may have to modify the plug on that

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:22 AM, MontyS mon...@mindspring.com wrote: The rear mic jack is a mono, not stereo, jack. It will short the ring and sleeve together. Pretty sure that's not true. I believe that the connector is a TRS type, but the ring is not connected to anything. The schematic for

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/29/2013 8:22 AM, MontyS wrote: The rear mic jack is a mono, not stereo, jack. It will short the ring and sleeve together. As Iain has noted, this is incorrect. It's a TRS jack that uses only the tip and sleeve contacts. Audio is on the tip, as is the voltage. Right. The mic

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Alan Ibbetson
Hello again. Thanks to so many people for their detailed help and suggestions. I seem to have solved the problem. First: yes, Don is correct, this Plantronics headset microphone has tip and ring connected together, just like every other PC headset on the planet. That means my laptop offering

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
I believe the theory behind PC microphone connections is that the same connector will work for both dynamic and electret microphones. Dynamic microphones use mono plugs, which short the bias. That isn't a problem as the bias is not a voltage source - it is actually the drain(?) load on the

Re: [Elecraft] Using a PC headset with K3, connections reverse at rear MIC jack?

2013-10-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
That statement is only applicable to the actual electret element itself which has very low output. There are very few bare electret elements available in the marketplace. Practical implementation of the electret element uses a built-in amplifier inside the package that is normally sold as an