Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-04-01 Thread Edward R Cole
. At least it will run fine for whomever gets it! From: Gary n6...@cox.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late! Message-ID: 025b01cf4d54$48ad9200$da08b600$@cox.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's a shame how much this thread

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-31 Thread Gary
-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 3:28 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late! If you need upgrades to SP3 for win-XP, you may be too late. I rebuilt an old computer a couple weeks ago as it had gotten

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-30 Thread Edward R Cole
OK, I own this topic :-) Meaning I started it. My purpose was to discover any facts or truths regarding continued use of win-XP. If the upgrades are to become NLA, then it will be harder to keep an older machine running. I think we all know that windows needs to be re-installed on a clean

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Anthony Marriott
I am very much the same way - I have an iMac and Macbook Air but recently built a dual boot Win7/Linux box. Originally I went for Win7 since I had had enough of running some Ham aps under VMWare on the mac. Now I find myself mostly in Linux mode for Ham use - I use Elementary OS as my Linux

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Phil Hystad
Further on this question... Has anyone tried out the Linux version of the Elecraft utilities on Raspberry Pi? Oh, maybe I can do that if I steal some time from other projects. I have never bothered to even look at these Linux version utilities to see what dependencies they might have. My

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Frank Precissi
I'll chime in here. Linux geek for a greater part of 20 years. Ran the server backend for an ISP for 10 of those (and migrated from Solaris to Linux due to cost concerns, blah blah blah). Home network is all linux servers, my desktop (which im at now) is linux, wife's stuff is all Mac. All of

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Phil Wheeler
My problem with the RPi is that it has so many pieces: Keyboard, RPi, Monitor (and converter to let me use SVGA monitor with it), etc.. So it's too spread out to use at my operating position *and* do ham radio. My $280 HP Win 8.1 machine is small, usable but a bit slow (1 GHz CPU, 2 GB RAM)

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Bill Turner
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 3/29/2014 8:31 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: Suggestions of which to install will be appreciated. REPLY: I really like the look and feel of Linux Mint, although I have not used if for any ham programs yet. Ubuntu is OK but personally I think the

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Phil Wheeler
How about Fedora? Phil - Sent from my iPad On Mar 29, 2014, at 8:38, Bill Turner dezrat1...@wildblue.net wrote: ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 3/29/2014 8:31 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: Suggestions of which to install will be appreciated. REPLY: I really like the look

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Phil Hystad
Which Linux? I have Ubuntu on my laptop but when it comes to the question of which Linux it is usually a question of which desktop U/I is your favorite. As for me, I don't like any of the Linux desktops and I primarily use Linux using a terminal window and vi as the editor. Major development

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 29 Mar 09:49 -0500, Phil Hystad wrote: Further on this question... Has anyone tried out the Linux version of the Elecraft utilities on Raspberry Pi? Oh, maybe I can do that if I steal some time from other projects. I have never bothered to even look at these Linux version

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Phil Hystad
Nate, You are right, the RPi is ARM based -- I completely overlooked that most important part of the problem. I wonder if Elecraft would release the source to their Linux utilities. Actually, a better RPi solution would be to use the RPi as a network gateway and cache server for clients

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Phil Wheeler
I like your access RPi on network approach. Hadn't thought about the CPU issue. Challenge is fining something useful (to me) to do with the Raspberry Pi :-) Phil - Sent from my iPad On Mar 29, 2014, at 10:29, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote: Nate, You are right, the RPi is ARM based --

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Oliver Johns
I understand that someone like Don Wilhelm who has a fairly elaborate local network would want to stick with Windows. He'll have already done all the working out of kinks and climbing the learning curve and won't want to do that again! However, for people with less elaborate setups or those

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Phil Hystad
Challenge is fining something useful (to me) to do with the Raspberry Pi :-) Mathematica is on the standard RPi Raspbian distro. Start playing with Mathematica. Mathematica is my favorite application and I use it more than any other app on the computer. Almost all of my programming (as

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Phil Hystad
Ditto! On Mar 29, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Oliver Johns ojo...@metacosmos.org wrote: I understand that someone like Don Wilhelm who has a fairly elaborate local network would want to stick with Windows. He'll have already done all the working out of kinks and climbing the learning curve and

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Edward R Cole
Essentially, what we did, so manual upgrade is still possible. But this experience has me wondering if they will continue to have this available after support is pulled? I am going to attempt to download the files to a flashdrive so I will not be relying on MS.com in the future. I plan to

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Anthony Marriott
I haven't tried raspberry pie yet, so can't comment. After trying many Linux distros I finally ended with Elementary OS I too understand the real estate issue. The plan was to sell the iMac and stick with the Linux/win7 desktop. Well, it didn't happen! Now I use both and my ham shack is

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Phil Hystad
I too understand the real estate issue. The plan was to sell the iMac and stick with the Linux/win7 desktop. The lack of surface area is an ever increasing problem for me in my shack but I have found a partial solution. Decided to sell all non-Elecraft rigs. I just sold my Icom 756 Pro

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread JohnE
I will apologize for what in retrospect might have been seen as a cheap shot - without comment or support. In my defense - it was an attempt at humor on a Friday afternoon after a rough week. I was not suggesting that anyone should completely abandon Windows for Linux If you have an app

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread John J. McDonough
Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote: How about Fedora? http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/19/html/Amateur_Radio_Guide/index.html AFAIK, this is the only distro with ham-specific documentation. The guide didn't get updated for Fedora 20 (most of the apps didn't change much anyway),

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Bill W2BLC
Been there and done that with Linux. Of the latest distros (distributions or versions), Mint is the best I have found. That said, it is the number of distributions that is keeping Linux from becoming accepted as an operating system for everyone. Too many choices is somewhat like too many cooks

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Bill Turner
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 3/29/2014 4:50 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: Once a single Linux system (distribution or distro) is chosen, serious programmers will develop software for Linux. REPLY: I agree and I wold take it step further. A simple computer should be developed

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Tony Estep
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Bill W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote: ...Too many choices is somewhat like too many cooks spoiling the stew. There needs to be a single Linux system... = But this is exactly the situation that Linux was supposed to cure. Before the arrival of Linux there

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-29 Thread Doug Person
Linux Mint is the best choice. It's also the most popular distribution of linux in history. I can't think of anything it lacks. There are logging programs, rig control programs, and fantastic selection of digital programs for PSK, RTTY, CW, etc. The fact is, linux distros all use the same

[Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-28 Thread Edward R Cole
If you need upgrades to SP3 for win-XP, you may be too late. I rebuilt an old computer a couple weeks ago as it had gotten corrupted and the easiest process was to wipe clean the HD and reinstall windows. I only have a CD with SP2 so have relied on auto-updating to upgrade to SP3. A couple

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-28 Thread Charles Johnson
It’s not too late... I just finished rebuilding an XP machine from scratch (reformatted hard drive) and also had only an XP SP2 CD. IE 6.0 (as contained on the CD) would not update to IE 8, nor would the service patches apply because “Windows Update” is no longer supported. “Microsoft Update”

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-28 Thread JohnE
Its just the Universe telling you its time to try Linux On 03/28/2014 05:27 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: If you need upgrades to SP3 for win-XP, you may be too late. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-28 Thread William Liporace - WC2L
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late! If you need upgrades to SP3 for win-XP, you may be too late. I rebuilt an old computer a couple weeks ago as it had gotten corrupted and the easiest process was to wipe clean the HD and reinstall windows. I only have a CD with SP2 so

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
I have tried Linux. It is just fine for those who have computers that are not networked to each other and do not need access to files on other computers on a network. Yes, for Linux geeks, it can be made to work, but discovering just the right 'tweeks' for Samba can be frustrating. If all

Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late!

2014-03-28 Thread Phil Wheeler
I'm with Don on this one. I use two Macs, with OS X 10.9.x, for most of my work -- but both have Windows 7 installed in dual boot configuration, because Windows has better support for some needs -- like ham radio and managing my GPS map loads to name two. My workhorse ripping and burning