Give me a break, Joe. I told you why I didn't give his call - I'm fairly
sure that he reads this reflector, and he will comment if he wants to.
End of subject
73, Pete N4ZR
On 4/6/2024 6:00 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
No, it's not "snarky". It points out that a claim can not
be verified
No, it's not "snarky". It points out that a claim can not
be verified absent supporting documentation - just like any
scientific study that has not been subject to peer review is
generally not given serious weight. This is particularly the
case when the claim runs contrary to not only the
Just to be clear on the point. The correct audio level should produce 4
bars indicated on the ALC Scale. Actual ALC action does not start until
after the 5th bar.
Yes, after any power adjustment, the audio system does start at lower
gain, quickly ramping to the desired level. This is done
Correct.
73,
Rick nk7i
On 4/6/2024 12:03 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Hmmm ... I thought that the ALC started AT the 5th bar and the first 4
bars were sort of a VU-meter. Hence Don's occasional advice, "4 full
bars and the 5th occasionally flickering." I've been known to get
things wrong in the
According to the DSP software engineer (Lyle Johnson) ALC begins at the
5th bar, and with the 5th bsr flickering shows no ALC action - 5th on
solid, it does show some ALC.
To keep the audio drive for digital modes correct set so the 5th bar
just flickers. Less than that the audio drive will
Fred et al:
Based on Don's information, 4 bars on solid, 5th bar flickering, 6th bar
is beginning of ALC. Also I seem to recall an exchange of information
with a member of the Elecraft staff that confirmed the beginning of ALC
at the 6th bar.
I think this is getting into a hair
Yes - although there have also been some analysis done that seems to
show that, in FT8, with any ALC bars visible, signals begin to widen
out, and at 4 bars there is a lot of junk between signals. Just
repeating what I've been told - I don't have the ability to check this
myself.
I was
Bob,
5th bar flickering is no ALC, but 5th bar solid indicates ALC action.
ALC starts at 5th bar solid.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 4/6/2024 3:41 PM, Bob McGraw wrote:
Fred et al:
Based on Don's information, 4 bars on solid, 5th bar flickering, 6th
bar is beginning of ALC. Also I seem to recall an
On 4/6/2024 3:58 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
Yes - although there have also been some analysis done that seems to
show that, in FT8, with any ALC bars visible, signals begin to
widen out, and at 4 bars there is a lot of junk between signals.
Just repeating what I've been told - I don't have
That's kinda snarky, Joe. I didn't identify him precisely because if he
wants to expose himself on this reflector (of which he is a member, I
believe) he should be the one to do so. I know him to be a retired
professional electronic engineer with a well-equipped workbench whose
analyses
Hmmm ... I thought that the ALC started AT the 5th bar and the first 4
bars were sort of a VU-meter. Hence Don's occasional advice, "4 full
bars and the 5th occasionally flickering." I've been known to get things
wrong in the past however.
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe
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