Re: [Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

2018-04-07 Thread John Stengrevics
I have recently been using the 6m ARR GaAsFET Preamp ahead of my K3S.  I also 
find that it has lower noise and perhaps more gain.  The proof is that I have 
been able to work moonrise/moonset EME with it (no elevation on my antenna).

John
WA1EAZ

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 11:16 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On 4/6/2018 5:58 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
>> I have operated from several countries using my K3S and I am never so
>> fortunate to have a noise floor low enough use preamp 2. Most of the time
>> preamp 1 is also off.
> 
> I've had the opposite experience. MDS of the original K3 was woefully poor 
> above 15M, even with the preamp switched in. As luck would have it, I have a 
> very nice ARR GAsFET 6M preamp on the shelf that I'd used in Chicago that I 
> inserted at the RX antenna patch point; I found that it improved the MDS all 
> the way down to 12M. I would have missed a LOT of QSOs without that preamp. 
> Of course, like everyone else, sometimes my noise level is lower than at 
> other times, and a solar system 500 ft from my main antenna raises it by 10 
> dB on 10 and 6 when the sun is hitting it.
> 
> When the K3S was introduced, I quickly replaced the Synth boards and the 
> Transverter board to get that improved preamp, simplifying my RX antenna 
> switching. I do find, though, that the GAsFET preamp has a slightly lower NF, 
> so I continue to use it during the 6M season.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

2018-04-07 Thread j...@kk9a.com
I have never used my K3S higher than 10m. I imagine that 6m (or 2m like
the original poster is using) is a different animal than HF and the higher
gain preamp would be useful.

John KK9A



Jim Brown K9YC wrote:

> I have operated from several countries using my K3S and I am never so
> fortunate to have a noise floor low enough use preamp 2. Most of the time
> preamp 1 is also off.

I've had the opposite experience. MDS of the original K3 was woefully
poor above 15M, even with the preamp switched in. As luck would have it,
I have a very nice ARR GAsFET 6M preamp on the shelf that I'd used in
Chicago that I inserted at the RX antenna patch point; I found that it
improved the MDS all the way down to 12M. I would have missed a LOT of
QSOs without that preamp. Of course, like everyone else, sometimes my
noise level is lower than at other times, and a solar system 500 ft from
my main antenna raises it by 10 dB on 10 and 6 when the sun is hitting it.

When the K3S was introduced, I quickly replaced the Synth boards and the
Transverter board to get that improved preamp, simplifying my RX antenna
switching. I do find, though, that the GAsFET preamp has a slightly
lower NF, so I continue to use it during the 6M season.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

2018-04-06 Thread Jim Brown

On 4/6/2018 5:58 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

I have operated from several countries using my K3S and I am never so
fortunate to have a noise floor low enough use preamp 2. Most of the time
preamp 1 is also off.


I've had the opposite experience. MDS of the original K3 was woefully 
poor above 15M, even with the preamp switched in. As luck would have it, 
I have a very nice ARR GAsFET 6M preamp on the shelf that I'd used in 
Chicago that I inserted at the RX antenna patch point; I found that it 
improved the MDS all the way down to 12M. I would have missed a LOT of 
QSOs without that preamp. Of course, like everyone else, sometimes my 
noise level is lower than at other times, and a solar system 500 ft from 
my main antenna raises it by 10 dB on 10 and 6 when the sun is hitting it.


When the K3S was introduced, I quickly replaced the Synth boards and the 
Transverter board to get that improved preamp, simplifying my RX antenna 
switching. I do find, though, that the GAsFET preamp has a slightly 
lower NF, so I continue to use it during the 6M season.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

2018-04-06 Thread Cady, Fred
Preamp 2 can be used only on 17 m - 6 m and the main and sub 10 db preamps must 
be off.  You are not allowed to have more than 20 db preamplification.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X




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Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 7:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

Hi John,

I operate mostly 6 & 2 meters.  On 6m, I have a third preamp between the K3S 
and the amp.  When operating EME, I have to disable Preamp 2 because 3 preamps 
create too much noise.  So, I have disabled Preamp 2.  This has allowed me to 
work EME successfully.

I wanted to try an experiment, disabling Preamp 1 and enabling Preamp 2 while 
using my 3rd preamp.  From what I understand, enabling Preamp 2 disables Preamp 
1.  But, I don’t know this for sure.

Let me know your thoughts on this.

Thanks & 73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 8:58 PM,   wrote:
>
> I am curious what the reason would be for this?
>
> I have operated from several countries using my K3S and I am never so
> fortunate to have a noise floor low enough use preamp 2. Most of the time
> preamp 1 is also off.
>
> John KK9A  (PJ4R in 2018 WPX SSB)
>
>
> Stengrevics Jstengrevics wrote:
>
> Is there some way to enable preamp 2 without enabling preamp 1?  Perhaps
> electing attenuation on preamp 1?
>
> 73,
>
> John
> WA1EAZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

2018-04-06 Thread John Stengrevics
Hi John,

I operate mostly 6 & 2 meters.  On 6m, I have a third preamp between the K3S 
and the amp.  When operating EME, I have to disable Preamp 2 because 3 preamps 
create too much noise.  So, I have disabled Preamp 2.  This has allowed me to 
work EME successfully.

I wanted to try an experiment, disabling Preamp 1 and enabling Preamp 2 while 
using my 3rd preamp.  From what I understand, enabling Preamp 2 disables Preamp 
1.  But, I don’t know this for sure.

Let me know your thoughts on this.

Thanks & 73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 8:58 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I am curious what the reason would be for this?   
> 
> I have operated from several countries using my K3S and I am never so
> fortunate to have a noise floor low enough use preamp 2. Most of the time
> preamp 1 is also off.
> 
> John KK9A  (PJ4R in 2018 WPX SSB)
> 
> 
> Stengrevics Jstengrevics wrote:
> 
> Is there some way to enable preamp 2 without enabling preamp 1?  Perhaps
> electing attenuation on preamp 1?
> 
> 73,
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ
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[Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

2018-04-06 Thread john
I am curious what the reason would be for this?   

I have operated from several countries using my K3S and I am never so
fortunate to have a noise floor low enough use preamp 2. Most of the time
preamp 1 is also off.

John KK9A  (PJ4R in 2018 WPX SSB)


Stengrevics Jstengrevics wrote:

Is there some way to enable preamp 2 without enabling preamp 1?  Perhaps
electing attenuation on preamp 1?

73,

John
WA1EAZ

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[Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

2018-04-05 Thread stengrevics
Is there some way to enable preamp 2 without enabling preamp 1?  Perhaps
electing attenuation on preamp 1?

73,

John
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