Re: [Elecraft] OK, odd question

2018-02-14 Thread Roy Koeppe
It is the "custom" for CW mode to use LSB on the bands below 20 meters and 
CW USB on 20 meters and the bands above it.


Hiram Percey decided that long ago.

73,   Roy K6XK




I for one like the tuning direction of the Elecraft rigs in CW (LSB).
When I began ham radio using much older receivers, I liked listening
with the BFO set to LSB.  My perception was "If the pitch goes up, I am
tuning to a higher frequency".  Those receivers did not have very good
frequency resolution and it helped me in tuning correctly.

I realize that is my preference, others like it the other way around.
It is easy to set the Elecraft gear to CW reverse, and that is "sticky",
so you only have to change it once for each band.

It is a designer's choice, so I guess Wayne agrees with me because he
made LSB CW the default.


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Re: [Elecraft] OK, odd question

2018-02-14 Thread Buck
I find it helpful to tune from a high pitch to a low pitch.  That way, I 
hear the signal coming rather than have it sneak up behind me and tune 
past the optimum tone.  That means, I have to shift the Reverse function 
depending on whether I am tuning up or down in frequency.




Buck, k4ia
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On 2/14/2018 11:51 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I for one like the tuning direction of the Elecraft rigs in CW (LSB). 
When I began ham radio using much older receivers, I liked listening 
with the BFO set to LSB.  My perception was "If the pitch goes up, I am 
tuning to a higher frequency".  Those receivers did not have very good 
frequency resolution and it helped me in tuning correctly.


I realize that is my preference, others like it the other way around. It 
is easy to set the Elecraft gear to CW reverse, and that is "sticky", so 
you only have to change it once for each band.


It is a designer's choice, so I guess Wayne agrees with me because he 
made LSB CW the default.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/14/2018 11:15 AM, Chuck Chandler wrote:

Something that bugs me just a tiny wee bit.


So, for years I used a Kenwood or two, then a Yaesu or three, then a
Ten-Tec.  Much of the time on CW.  When I tuned a band, say 20M, I would
start at the bottom of the band and tune upwards in frequency.  When I 
did
this, as I approached a CW signal it would be higher-pitched.  As I 
tuned it
to zero-beat with my 500-Hz CW offset the pitch would drop until it 
matched

my 500 Hz spot.  If I tuned too far, the pitch would drop below 500, then
drop off the scale as I tuned past it.  Similar in fashion to tuning a 
USB

signal.


My Elecraft tunes similar to one other rig I have owned, an iCom 706 
MkIIG.
As I tune up the band I first hear a low-pitched CW signal, then it 
centers,

then it gets higher in pitch.  Similar to tuning an LSB signal.


This doesn't make a difference in usability, I guess it's due to the
receiver architecture.  And, yeah, I can go to "CW-R" and it works the 
way

all those other radios did.


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Re: [Elecraft] OK, odd question

2018-02-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
I for one like the tuning direction of the Elecraft rigs in CW (LSB). 
When I began ham radio using much older receivers, I liked listening 
with the BFO set to LSB.  My perception was "If the pitch goes up, I am 
tuning to a higher frequency".  Those receivers did not have very good 
frequency resolution and it helped me in tuning correctly.


I realize that is my preference, others like it the other way around. 
It is easy to set the Elecraft gear to CW reverse, and that is "sticky", 
so you only have to change it once for each band.


It is a designer's choice, so I guess Wayne agrees with me because he 
made LSB CW the default.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/14/2018 11:15 AM, Chuck Chandler wrote:

Something that bugs me just a tiny wee bit.

  


So, for years I used a Kenwood or two, then a Yaesu or three, then a
Ten-Tec.  Much of the time on CW.  When I tuned a band, say 20M, I would
start at the bottom of the band and tune upwards in frequency.  When I did
this, as I approached a CW signal it would be higher-pitched.  As I tuned it
to zero-beat with my 500-Hz CW offset the pitch would drop until it matched
my 500 Hz spot.  If I tuned too far, the pitch would drop below 500, then
drop off the scale as I tuned past it.  Similar in fashion to tuning a USB
signal.

  


My Elecraft tunes similar to one other rig I have owned, an iCom 706 MkIIG.
As I tune up the band I first hear a low-pitched CW signal, then it centers,
then it gets higher in pitch.  Similar to tuning an LSB signal.

  


This doesn't make a difference in usability, I guess it's due to the
receiver architecture.  And, yeah, I can go to "CW-R" and it works the way
all those other radios did.


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Re: [Elecraft] OK, odd question

2018-02-14 Thread Roger D Johnson

IIRC there was no "standard". It was an arbitrary choice by the manufacturer
which side of the filter they put the BFO crystal frequency. Nice to have a
choice with the K3!

73, Roger


On 2/14/2018 11:15 AM, Chuck Chandler wrote:

Something that bugs me just a tiny wee bit.

  


So, for years I used a Kenwood or two, then a Yaesu or three, then a
Ten-Tec.  Much of the time on CW.  When I tuned a band, say 20M, I would
start at the bottom of the band and tune upwards in frequency.  When I did
this, as I approached a CW signal it would be higher-pitched.  As I tuned it
to zero-beat with my 500-Hz CW offset the pitch would drop until it matched
my 500 Hz spot.  If I tuned too far, the pitch would drop below 500, then
drop off the scale as I tuned past it.  Similar in fashion to tuning a USB
signal.

  


My Elecraft tunes similar to one other rig I have owned, an iCom 706 MkIIG.
As I tune up the band I first hear a low-pitched CW signal, then it centers,
then it gets higher in pitch.  Similar to tuning an LSB signal.

  


This doesn't make a difference in usability, I guess it's due to the
receiver architecture.  And, yeah, I can go to "CW-R" and it works the way
all those other radios did.

  


My question is, is there a reason for it working this way?  Does it provide
some advantage?  Or is it just the way it happened. like, not enough room
towards the edge of the napkin when it was drawn up?

  


Curious.

  


73 de Chuck, WS1L

  


Chuck Chandler

chandler...@gmail.com

  


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[Elecraft] OK, odd question

2018-02-14 Thread Chuck Chandler
Something that bugs me just a tiny wee bit.

 

So, for years I used a Kenwood or two, then a Yaesu or three, then a
Ten-Tec.  Much of the time on CW.  When I tuned a band, say 20M, I would
start at the bottom of the band and tune upwards in frequency.  When I did
this, as I approached a CW signal it would be higher-pitched.  As I tuned it
to zero-beat with my 500-Hz CW offset the pitch would drop until it matched
my 500 Hz spot.  If I tuned too far, the pitch would drop below 500, then
drop off the scale as I tuned past it.  Similar in fashion to tuning a USB
signal.

 

My Elecraft tunes similar to one other rig I have owned, an iCom 706 MkIIG.
As I tune up the band I first hear a low-pitched CW signal, then it centers,
then it gets higher in pitch.  Similar to tuning an LSB signal.  

 

This doesn't make a difference in usability, I guess it's due to the
receiver architecture.  And, yeah, I can go to "CW-R" and it works the way
all those other radios did.  

 

My question is, is there a reason for it working this way?  Does it provide
some advantage?  Or is it just the way it happened. like, not enough room
towards the edge of the napkin when it was drawn up?

 

Curious.

 

73 de Chuck, WS1L

 

Chuck Chandler

chandler...@gmail.com

 

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