Re: [Elecraft] FT8

Brian, Would highly suggest you check out the K4 groups.io website, in the Files section for many help documents: https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 73, Dale K9NN > On Apr 22, 2023, at 8:28 PM, wrote: > > Is anyone with a K4(KD4) have success with FT8? I keep getting > "Invalid parameter while

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 WITH K3 AND STATIONMASTER

> For FT-8 will my audio cables go from the computer to the K3 Yes. or will the SM handle all that through the USB connection. No. Station Master is a band decoder not a digital mode interface. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2020-12-22 12:53 PM, Greg Best wrote: I run my k3 with a microham

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Sure wish I could put up such a "no antenna" antenna from my apartment where the noise level is often 20 or more dB over S9. Working any DX on even FT8 is a real rare occurence from here where I have a mobile antenna working against an iron railing on my second floor balcony. On Thu, Jul 16,

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

I still say, “appliance operator “ Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP > wrote: > > I didn't notice myself "denigrating" anything or "talking down" to anyone. I > explained why I like CW, even though other modes have their own advantages. > > Regarding

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

I didn't notice myself "denigrating" anything or "talking down" to anyone. I explained why I like CW, even though other modes have their own advantages. Regarding "increasing knowledge" and "innovating," I suspect that 90% of the guys pointing and clicking their way to DXCC with K1JT's code

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Connecting to history and making history are not the same thing. Doing things the same way they were done a hundred years ago may make a "connection" for you. But hams are supposed to innovate, invent and increase the knowledge. So you buy or build equipment with way more ability than to send

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Oh give me a break.  On any given day or night the CW frequencies are dead as a wombat except for FT8. And I never proposed "saving" CW anyway.  Just the opposite ... I proposed modifying FT8 so that it had the flexibility of CW. Dave  AB7E On 7/13/2020 7:57 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Just as one can go from an electric or petroleum powered vehicle back to cart and horse (the common factor being wheels), doesn't mean that the history to get from there to here must be ignored (or honored). It doesn't matter the mode, ties into history will still exist and can be honored (or

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

That’s definitely true. Although I do have a gripe (is it FT4?) with the software that has arbitrarily plopped its users down in what was just a few months ago the home of mostly CW QRP activity on some bands. There does seem to be a need for coordination. Of course, I’m also old enough to

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs" Please- *nobody* is asking JT to save CW by giving us an extra 6-8 dB SNR. I hope that is not the next Goldilocks mode in the pipeline. I assume proponents of such a cobbled up "user interf

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Please- *nobody* is asking JT to save CW by giving us an extra 6-8 dB SNR. I hope that is not the next Goldilocks mode in the pipeline. I assume proponents of such a cobbled up "user interface" would feel perfectly justified in "sharing" even more CW frequency space? No thanks. 73, Drew AF2Z

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

e normally at very low power levels. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: David Gilbert [mailto:ab7e...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 8:57 PM To: l...@lnainc.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

* On 2020 13 Jul 02:47 -0500, David Gilbert wrote: > > No, those other posts didn't say that. Perhaps not directly. Preferences can always be strongly implied. I think it is inarguable that years back ARRL publications had a bias toward antennas that favored DX. DX is fine and perhaps that

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Two great posts, Dave. Thanks! 73 Jim K9YC On 7/13/2020 12:59 AM, David Gilbert wrote: Fine, but that demarcation is pretty arbitrary.  You could just as easily go back to tube gear with crystal controlled transmitters and regenerative receivers., but I'd be a lot of money you don't.  The

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Actually, I'm building a regenerative receiver now. I have to use JFETs because I got rid of all my tube stuff due to lack of room. But of course I will continue to benefit from the DSP in my K3, and its keyer (although I have a bug that I use once in a while). But those things don't take

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

I believe that half of US hams are Technician Class, so mostly VHF/UHF FM operators. Not a lot of DX or contesting there. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jul 13, 2020, at 4:03 AM, David Gilbert wrote: > >  > Fine, but that demarcation is pretty arbitrary. You could just as easily

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Fine, but that demarcation is pretty arbitrary.  You could just as easily go back to tube gear with crystal controlled transmitters and regenerative receivers., but I'd be a lot of money you don't.  The gear you operate compares little in form, fit or function to anything those folks used

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

No, those other posts didn't say that. I don't know why some hams insist on fabricating controversy where there is none.  It seems like the bulk of our American society is determined to be as tribal as possible.  Sorry times we live in. Dave   AB7E On 7/12/2020 9:09 PM, Lynn W. Taylor,

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

For me, it's simple. When I make a CW contact, even if its total content is "ENN TU", I am connected to history, to Jack Phillips on the Titanic, to all of the military traffic men and airborne radio operators of WWII, to the operators on the merchant ships on the high seas and the Great

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

But apparently, according to other posts on this list, DXing and CW is Amateur Radio, and if you don't have fun doing that, you aren't really a ham. Oh well. 73 -- Lynn On 7/12/20 6:32 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: I was trying to remember JS8CALL -- thanks for the reminder. The best

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

First of all, there is no comparison between the cost of what you just described and the cost of the software required to provide what I hypothesized.  Secondly, what I hypothesized would stack on top of what you described without conflict. So I'm afraid I really don't understand the point

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

There is a way to improve the signal to noise of the CW signal.  It is called the yagi or beam antenna. The tower, guy system, beam, feedline, connectors, and switching, all have considerable appeal for some of us, the same as a good paddle, or a K3 radio. My four towers and yagis were built by

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

> On Jul 12, 2020, at 6:57 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > Think of it this way ... CW works fine as both a contest mode, DXing mode, > and conversational mode. Underlaying CW with a well configured digital > signal processing scheme like that which is under FT8, except with a > different

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Not quite.  I'm aware of JS8 and tried it more than a year ago, but it still has much of the rigidity of the WSJT-X user interface and isn't as basic as I think would be desirable. Think of it this way ... CW works fine as both a contest mode, DXing mode, and conversational mode. 

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

I was trying to remember JS8CALL -- thanks for the reminder. The best thing about this hobby is that there are so many options and so many different things you can do. David, in my off-list message, I was thinking of JS8CALL. 73 -- Lynn On 7/12/20 6:18 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: Enter JS8Call.

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 - was "On Second Thought, I'll Take The Stairs"

Enter JS8Call. All the technology of FT8, plus all of the conversationality of CW, RTTY and SSB rolled into one. If you haven't tried it, you really should. It's developer, Jordan Sherer (KN4CRD) has done a terrific job with it and I am honored to have been a part of the beta team almost

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Driver Issue

Lee, In addition to the MIC Gain and the WSJT POWER slider (misnamed because it is just another audio level control, you also have to deal with the computer soundcard audio level. It should be set for Line Level instead of speaker if that is possible, and that is one of the 3 audio controls

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Driver Issue

First cut the output from the computer by 1/3 to 1/2. Now this will allow finer adjustment with the K3 controls. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Feb 2, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > > Go into the TX TEST mode and see if the issue still exist. If not, it’s an > RFI

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Driver Issue

YES, I am using a KX3.   I use the "bar" on the right and set 20db of attenuation in the audio drive "chain". Mike gain is now set at aprox 40, rather than 3-4 (one step makes a BIG step)... I can set "ALC" correctly. 73, steve WB3LGC On 2/2/20 7:20 PM, AL7CR wrote: An absolutely classic

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Driver Issue

Go into the TX TEST mode and see if the issue still exist. If not, it’s an RFI issue. If not, back the MIC (Line gain) down to zero and start up watching the ALC scale. The computer level may be overdriving the radio. If so back the PWR slider on WSJT down. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Driver Issue

An absolutely classic problem, I am the first to respond I am assuming only because the Super Bowl is on! I call this the "gain chain" problem. It depends a bit on how you are set up but try the following. Go into the menu on the K3S and turn down the LIN OUT value. I have mine set at 2 I

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 question

Also note if you have a lot of other things running your CPU utilization may get too high to do decoding. I find that Chrome browser will shut down decoding until it is closed and decoding promptly then resumes. Use the Task manager to watch a few cycles and sort on CPU utilization to see what

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 question

On 12/16/2019 11:03 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: So, my question am I doing something wrong? Any suggestions would be appreciated? What are you doing to sync your computer's clock? Do you decode signals? Look at the DT values -- they should be between -0.4 and +0.4 sec. Do you have the latest

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Problems

Thanks all... you got me on the correct road. Just made 80m FT8 contact. Just had to use DATA MD button to make the adjustment. Thank again to all. Paul - W1PEF Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2019, at 7:28 PM, W1PEF wrote: > > I am able to use FT8 on 40m and 20m. If I try 80m and 160m on

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Problems

How is your swr at the longer wavelengths? I figured out my lousy signal reports on 80 were because I was radiating inside the house off the feedline, as the antenna wasn't resonant. Good luck in any case, Scott AD6YT On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:28 PM W1PEF wrote: > > I am able to use FT8 on 40m

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

Peter, See the article on my webpage www.w3fpr.com. Scroll down to the last entry on the left column and click to bring up the document. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/16/2019 6:46 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote: I should have mentioned, this is on a K3s. What radio settings are involved? Is it mic gain

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

What is the Line gain on the radio? My values: For transmit: Computer SPKR level  @ 30 or -18 dB WSJT-X PWR at mid scale, thus  Transmit Digital Gain is -17.3 dB K3S Line gain at 25. For receive: Microphone (USB Audio CODEC) = @ 27 or -10 dB K3S   Line Out =  Normal 010 These values

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

raw K4TAX > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 7:24 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; li...@w2irt.net >> Peter Dougherty > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power > > Peter: > > In that configuration there are 3 specific places where adjustments are > neede

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

Yeah, good idea. I'll give it a shot and see what happens. - pjd -Original Message- From: Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 10:47 PM To: Peter Dougherty Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power I had 2.0.1 in my computer and had been

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

.1. is good enough for me. > > > - pjd > > -Original Message- > From: Bob McGraw K4TAX > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 7:24 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; li...@w2irt.net >> Peter Dougherty > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power >

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

for me. - pjd -Original Message- From: Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 7:24 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; li...@w2irt.net >> Peter Dougherty Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power Peter: In that configuration there are 3 specific places where adjus

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

there's absolutely a problem on my own system with v2.1.0. I would really like to fix it if I can. - pjd -Original Message- From: Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 7:24 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; li...@w2irt.net >> Peter Dougherty Subject: Re: [Elecraft]

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

ontrol all these settings! - pjd From: turnbull Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 5:48 PM To: Peter Dougherty Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power Ck radio settings. After loading 2.1, I found rig setting changed from K3. Once corrected all was ok. Sent from

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

On 7/16/2019 3:46 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote: I should have mentioned, this is on a K3s. What radio settings are involved? Is it mic gain or something in the menu? When using the Line input, which we should be doing for WSJT modes, the Mic Gain toggles to Line In Gain by pushing the knob in

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

aggravating was my RX levels went haywire and it took me almost an hour to find them. There’s GOT to be an easier way to control all these settings! - pjd From: turnbull Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 5:48 PM To: Peter Dougherty Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power Ck radio

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 TX levels = no power

Look at Sound Settings. What is your input and output device. It should be pointed at your radio. You don’t mention which radio this problem concerns. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jul 16, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Peter Dougherty wrote: > > Hi all, > I'm completely stumped at a problem I

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Power Level thread..

Folks - The pro/con appropriate power level discussion on FT8 is a repeat of a huge prior thread. (Search the nabble archive at: https://elecraft.com/pages/community  ) Let's end the thread for now to avoid this one expanding any further. Unlike FT8 we need a fairly high signal to noise ratio

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Transmit Problem

I spent more time than I would like to admit trying to figure out why there was no output when trying to transmit digital modes from the internal sound card. It was the line gain (mic gain), it defaulted to 0 after installing the KIO3B. 73 de Joseph M. Durnal - NE3R On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 5:44

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Transmit Problem

Terry, This sounds like the same problem that Gary Smith was having. Look through the posts of the last two days for subject line "Re: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default." Peter Lambert provided the solution. It is a Windows/WSJT-X setup problem and

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

Must be “new” time. My clock only has one hour between 0200 and 0300 Z. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:38 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: > > > > To test this latest, greatest and most updatest version (guaranteed not to > rust, bust or collect dust), a mock two-hour

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

If you’re not part of the solution, you’re the precipitate :D De KX2CW Joan . . Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet. Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh. > On Nov 28, 2018, at 16:54, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On 11/28/2018 3:28 PM, Mike Harris via Elecraft wrote: >> I installed v2.0.0-rc4

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

To test this latest, greatest and most updatest version (guaranteed not to rust, bust or collect dust), a mock two-hour test/contest will take place this weekend. Specifically, from 0200-0300Z on 1 Dec, which is Friday evening here in Los Estados Unido -- Sent from:

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

The mock tests, not the contest. Michael Blake k9...@mac.com > On Nov 29, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: > > (1 December, 0200-0300Z) > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

(1 December, 0200-0300Z) -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

John, I am confused with your comment (NA time). What is the UTC date and time of the tests? Very 73 - Mike - k9JRI > On Nov 28, 2018, at 4:36 PM, John Harper wrote: > > And there are 3 upcoming events for the newest version of WSJT-X - and the > first one is tonight from 0200 - 0300Z.

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

If any are going to operate FT8 in the RTTY contest this weekend, you should note that 2.0-RC5 is required.  So you have a couple days to install it.  RC5 is expected to be the full release in Dec. at this point. You CAN install both on the computer (install it to a different folder, don't

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

On 29/11/2018 00:54, Jim Brown wrote: > On 11/28/2018 3:28 PM, Mike Harris via Elecraft wrote: >> I installed v2.0.0-rc4 which locks you into 77 bit messages and found >> very little decode action on my waterfall so I reverted to v2.0.0-rc3. > > If you're not part of the solution, you're part

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

On 11/28/18 at 4:54 PM, j...@audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote: On 11/28/2018 3:28 PM, Mike Harris via Elecraft wrote: I installed v2.0.0-rc4 which locks you into 77 bit messages and found very little decode action on my waterfall so I reverted to v2.0.0-rc3. If you're not part of the

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

There's a third option ... maybe you just don't care about the problem or its solution. [:-) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 11/28/2018 4:54 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 11/28/2018 3:28 PM, Mike Harris via Elecraft wrote: I installed v2.0.0-rc4 which locks you into 77 bit

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

On 11/28/2018 3:28 PM, Mike Harris via Elecraft wrote: I installed v2.0.0-rc4 which locks you into 77 bit messages and found very little decode action on my waterfall so I reverted to v2.0.0-rc3. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. :) 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Upgrade

Not quite right. FT8 v2.0.0-rc3 is compatible with v1.9.1 as long as you do NOT check: "Always generate 77-bit messages" and "Decode only 77-bit messages" under the F2 > Advanced tab. I installed v2.0.0-rc4 which locks you into 77 bit messages and found very little decode action on my

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 and K3

In troubleshooting problems like these, it is helpful to plug headphones into the sound card audio output jack, to see whether it's a computer issue or a radio issue. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Glenn - N5RN Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 9:56 AM

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 and K3

Here’s some things to check: Verify that WSJT-X is pointing to the correct sound devices. Verify that you do have an audio signal on the lines you expect them to be on. -- Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!" > On Nov 21, 2018, at 8:56 AM, Glenn - N5RN > wrote: > > Good morning

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 + AX1 in the field?

: 11/15/2018 8:42:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 + AX1 in the field? My first use of the AX1 was with my KX2 sitting at my kitchen table. I had a couple of FT8 QSO's on 20M. The largest part of my station was my laptop! Lou, W0FK - St. Louis, MO "The difference bet

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 + AX1 in the field?

My first use of the AX1 was with my KX2 sitting at my kitchen table. I had a couple of FT8 QSO's on 20M. The largest part of my station was my laptop! Lou, W0FK - St. Louis, MO "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein -- Sent from:

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 + AX1 in the field?

On 11/14/18 20:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Anyone try FT8 on their AX1 whip yet? No FT8 yet, but I did try WSPR as one of the first uses of my AX-1. On 10/25/18 10:36 AM, Steve Sergeant wrote: > I received my AX-1 yesterday. > > This morning, I took a 30 min. break at a local park with my

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 and Strong Signals

: [Elecraft] FT8 and Strong Signals Thanks Jim, K9YC, for the detailed information.  I too concur that wide signals can more likely be the result of the waterfall adjustments, or the system gain, which has the no signal noise level above 30 dB on the WSJT-X bargraph indicator.  If this is the case

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 and Strong Signals

Thanks Jim, K9YC, for the detailed information.  I too concur that wide signals can more likely be the result of the waterfall adjustments, or the system gain, which has the no signal noise level above 30 dB on the WSJT-X bargraph indicator.  If this is the case, adjust the audio level in the

Re: [Elecraft] FT8 and Strong Signals

Jim,  Thank you for the solid information. 73 Doug EI2CN PS I understand AGC should be disabled. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Jim Brown Date: 17/07/2018 18:51 (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FT8 and Strong

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

I've been using FT8 extensively, if not exclusively at times, on 6M. I've operated 6M since the mid-80's from the Midwest (Missouri). Propagation on 6M here is often a black hole for RF. Using FT8, there have been frequent EU, SA and JA openings, whereas in prior years they have been few and far

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

I quoted the context. On 7/3/2018 6:35 PM, Neil Zampella wrote: Wes, you're taking that out of context.   The structured messages allow for redundancy if some of the original message is missing. The decoder can take the sync symbols so that the system can understand what type of message it

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

No, it's not a failure of the mode, but a question of personal ethics.  Other ops have theirs, I have mine. On 7/4/2018 7:13 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > JTAlert was informing me that my QSO partner was/had been sending > me a text message informing me that he had my report and I should be >

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

> JTAlert was informing me that my QSO partner was/had been sending > me a text message informing me that he had my report and I should be > sending RRR. At that point I stopped transmitting and unloaded the > software. Which is why I do not enable the text message capability in JT-Alert or

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

I thought Eric CLOSED this thread YESTERDAY! Getting tired of deleting references to FT-8. -- Original Message -- From: "Wes Stewart" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 7/4/2018 8:46:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"? Actually, I was in the proce

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Actually, I was in the process of learning about JT65 by doing some listening tests when FT8 was added to the suite.  So I took it up almost immediately after it was introduced.  I think I was up to about 80 "contacts" when someone on the WSJT-X Yahoo group suggested that JTAlert was a great

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

I restrict myself to work FT8 with 5W output for 20m to 10m bands where I can use 2 elements quad up about 20 meter. Although QSO sometimes depends on other station’s receiving capability, 5W is good enough to work many DX stations around the world including long path west Africa and EU. To

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

According to the KH1 people fully half of the FT8 callers are using the wrong software or mode. I don't know if the guy I heard yesterday in the CW portion of 40 meters was one of them but he was warbling away there for a good long time; nice signal too-- s9+20db. 73, Drew AF2Z On 07/03/18

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

One of the very best things about Ham radio is how mindbogglingly huge the tent is ^_^ de KX2CW Joan Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet. Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh. > On Jul 3, 2018, at 14:11, Bill Frantz wrote: > > I can't resist. > > My accomplishments: I have a DXCC

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Glad to see someone else enjoying the reality of FT8. For all those who are running huge power because they think that’s what it takes to work FT8 DX — ruining the enjoyment of others in the process — consider this. About a week ago, from my little central Florida station, running 75 watts

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Basically FT8 adds tremendously to your receiver's sensitivity. The tradeoff is that the QSOs are highly structured. Not much opportunity for "How's the weather in Dogpatch?" But if you're willing to accept the tradeoff you can make QSO's that would otherwise be IMPOSSIBLE.  If you're not

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Soon after I started FT8 in April, I like others wondered why I am sitting in front of the 'tube" listening to the "whales" talk to each other (at least thats what it sound like!). I quickly got bored, but since there really wasn't any good DX floating around, I got addicted to it, just working

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

.. and if you add JT-Alert to the mix, it can do the QRZ lookup for you .. Neil, KN3ILZ On 7/3/2018 5:32 PM, Carl Yaffey wrote: On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: and don’t care to find out what the other guy’s name is or what he/she does when they aren’t punching at their

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Wes, you're taking that out of context.   The structured messages allow for redundancy if some of the original message is missing. The decoder can take the sync symbols so that the system can understand what type of message it is, it still needs the callsign and signal report. More details

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Mike, the only automation is in the middle of the contact, the operator has to be in front of the radio and computer in order to select a station to answer,  to begin transmission, and to log the QSO. None of that is automated in WSJT-X.   I cannot speak for other programs that have gone

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Andy, that's not right ... you have to be in the shack to make sure the system keeps calling as there is a 2 minute timer that will turn off your transmission. It is also suggested that if you don't get a reply back after the first two minute period, manually move the Tx freq. Finally,

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Even in my analog EME days, a pretty good test of a CW op, I never once heard a signal that was there before I started listening. (G4WJS was responding to my concern about K3's timing issues on FT8 delaying transmission.) Now the JT65 guys "copy" callsigns by looking up the closest sounding

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Grant, Was that a McBee desk-sized rather than desktop computer? I saw one of those in my youth, but I live in the town where they were manufactured. 73, Carl N8VZ Sent from my iPhone === Carl Jón Denbow, N8VZ 17 Coventry Lane Athens, Ohio 45701-3718 c...@n8vz.com

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Folks - Let's end this OT thread at this time in the interest of relieving other readers from email overload. 73, Eric Mooderator.. /elecraft.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

On 2018-07-03 5:16 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: Hence, I dubbed the mode, "Imaginary" since it hears things that aren't there. Not true. It takes advantage of large polynomial encoding that allows the decoder to "get the message" in spite of missing or damaged bits. That's no different than *an

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

  I do the same thing. I'll add that I am always at the controls during FT8 contacts. I do nothing automatic with it. I laugh at all the hate FT8 gets. I don't get it. 73! Tom - KB2SMS On 07/03/2018 05:32 PM, Carl Yaffey wrote: On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: and don’t

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

FT8 Hands-Off Ham Radio ;) On 03-Jul-18 15:36, Wayne Burdick wrote: Overheard yesterday on 40 meter SSB, in reference to FT8: “Given the level of automation and whatnot, maybe they should call it ‘magic radio’ instead of ‘ham radio’.” New contest category? Wayne N6KR

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 16:25 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"? How is it any different than the RTTY setups used for DXpeditions that would do essentially the

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

Yes to both. I have taken advantage of the ability to receive, even with long dropouts, by turning off my transmissions for a few seconds to see if I'm on top of another station and therefore having more problems getting through. This ability also helps with noise bursts. The QRM solution is

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > and don’t care to find out what the other guy’s name is or what he/she does > when they aren’t punching at their own keyboard As soon as I start an FT8 “iso”, I go to QRZ and look the person up. Carl Yaffey K8NU Recording studio.

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

"That is FT8.  There is no involvement once the contact starts." That is only true is you choose to make it true. In basic FT8 mode "auto sequence" and "Call 1st" are operator options which I sometimes choose to disable. I also sometimes change my TX frequency in the middle of a QSO if I

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

On 7/3/2018 2:06 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: The RTTY difference is that they come back In my experience, RTTY in a DX pileup is a pretty slow and frustrating process for both the DX and the caller. It takes a very skilled op to average 60 Qs/hour; a good CW op can at least double that.

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

In a message to this group back in February I wrote: Quoting G4WJS: "For FT8 the net effect is that up to about 5 seconds of a message may be missing yet still be decoded. The amount missing can be either a truncation or parts of the message below the decoding threshold. The FT8

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

On 7/3/2018 1:59 PM, ANDY DURBIN wrote: wo of my KH1 FT8 QSO were completed after I had given up and turned off TX Enable. Although I was still in the shack I had no involvement in completing the QSO. I was just a spectator. That is very different from the level of interaction required to

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

I can't resist. My accomplishments: I have a DXCC with 150+ LotW confirmed entities. I have over 100 entities on both digital and CW, less on voice. I have a triple play WAS. I have 5 contacts with KH1/KH7Z in their log, 2 CW, 2 FT8, and 1 SSB. (I'm missing RTTY.) I'm active in ARES/RACES,

Re: [Elecraft] FT8: "Magic radio"?

That is FT8.  There is no involvement once the contact starts. That is the beauty of it.    The automation is no legal in the USA and many other places but I doubt it will be addressed much like excessive power.  It is never addressed.  Do it right.  Don't worry about others.  Have fun. The

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