Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread James Bennett
After changing that TX delay in WSJT-X on both computers, AND changing from VOX to CAT control, I do see a slight improvement. I guess that at this point we can simply close the thread. The software works on both computers and both the KX3 and K3 are able to successfully make FT8 QSO’s - when

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread RIchard Williams via Elecraft
Jim, Check the Settings/ Advanced tab and make sure you have the Tx Delay box set to .1 seconds, and not to 1 second. Dick, K8ZTT On Friday, February 23, 2018, 12:35:18 PM MST, James Bennett wrote: Made changes to my “radio” tab as suggested below and I see some

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Wes Stewart
And before that we used CW.  I built a keyer/sequencer (still have it in storage) that used an Accu-Memory board with a lot of peripheral CMOS to automate the station sequencing. I counted down the 60 Hz to generate timing, either 15 sec or 2 min depending on mode.  This started the changer

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
What is the CPU and Memory usage in percent, under the PERFORMANCE tab of the system task manager, with WSJT-X sitting idle and listening? 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z https://www.nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Edward R Cole
Guess its time for me to add a couple comments: Before FT8, before HFers "discovered" JT65,etc., we moonbouncer's had been using JT-65 for nearly 15 years! Joe Taylor-K1JT invented all these nice new digital modes which originally were designed for ms (meteor scatter) and eme (moonbounce).

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
In as much as one only has 1 second minimum resolution, I'd say that is quite normal.  No,. the ALC/RF should not occur at the same time as the TX LED is illuminated. In order to correctly determine accurate timing values, one needs to use a triggered dual trace scope to see exactly when

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread James Bennett
Made changes to my “radio” tab as suggested below and I see some improvement, and wondering if this is what I should expect: At the “zero” time mark, the rig red TX light comes on and at the +1 second mark, RF /ALC is happening. Expected behavior? or should the RF/ALC start at the same time as

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Walter Underwood
Systems haven’t used two stop bits for decades. I’ve never set a system to two stop bits and I was supporting a big UUCP node at Hewlett-Packard in the late 1980’s. wunder Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Feb 23, 2018, at 9:58 AM, RIchard

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Wes Stewart
To save work, I'm going to copy and paste a portion of a message I sent to my DX club back in September 2017.  In it I slightly facetiously coined the term "imaginary modes" for the WSJT-X suite and explained it in the footnotes copied here: "* I call them imaginary because the programs

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Richard
> No issues of that type here. These are my setup numbers: > > Baud Rate = Eight > > Stop Bits = one > > Handshake = None > > PTT method = CAT > > Mode = Data/Pkt > > Split = Rig > > Also under the Advanced tab: Miscellaneous > > TX Delay = 0.1 sec. Here’s my latest attempt: Config: PTT

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Richard, The most common cause of "not coming out of transmit" is that you have 2 sources of PTT. VOX and CAT, or VOX and RTS, or CAT and RTS, or any other combination. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/23/2018 10:14 AM, Richard wrote: Initially, I was using CAT. Now I’m trying RTS. Just called CQ and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread John Stengrevics
>> *** Be sure the VOX mode on the radio is OFF. {Very important} >> >> >> 73 >> >> Bob, K4TAX >> >> >> >> >> On 2/22/2018 10:08 PM, Richard wrote: >>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >&g

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Wayne Burdick
s the VOX release where the delay is adjustable. >> >> 73, Ted W4NZ >> >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole (NK7Z) >> Sent: Friday, February 23, 20

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread brian
, Ted W4NZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole (NK7Z) Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing Yes! I never use VOX for that re

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Ted Bryant
t; > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole (NK7Z) > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:55 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing > > Yes!

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Richard
plitter, or hub > and such in the path. > > *** Be sure the VOX mode on the radio is OFF. {Very important} > > > 73 > > Bob, K4TAX > > > > > On 2/22/2018 10:08 PM, Richard wrote: >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Richard
t; > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:20 AM > To: Richard > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Tim

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
craft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole (NK7Z) Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing Yes!  I never use VOX for that reason. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z https://www.nk7z.net On 02/

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
ebruary 23, 2018 8:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing Yes! I never use VOX for that reason. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z https://www.nk7z.net On 02/23/2018 05:48 AM, John Harper wrote: He's using VOX. Does that not introduce an additional delay ove

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Wes Stewart
Before I abandoned the use of FT8, and after FT8 was fixed to remove delay issues with K3s, I used VOX exclusively.  Same is true on CW, SSB and RTTY. Wes  N7WS On 2/23/2018 6:55 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote: Yes!  I never use VOX for that reason. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z https://www.nk7z.net

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole (NK7Z) Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing Yes! I never use VOX for that reason. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z https

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Ted Bryant
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Cole (NK7Z) Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing Yes! I never use VOX for that reason. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z https://www.nk7z.net On 02/23/2018 05:48 AM, John

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Yes! I never use VOX for that reason. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z https://www.nk7z.net On 02/23/2018 05:48 AM, John Harper wrote: He's using VOX. Does that not introduce an additional delay over what PTT would have? John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
I use my K3 on FT8 daily, and have never had a long delay, not once, I have used both one stop bit, and two stop bits, and can see no difference between the two. Is it possible something is autobauding? I have every thing set explicitly to 38.4K. The WSJT-S software, the com port on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread John Harper
He's using VOX. Does that not introduce an additional delay over what PTT would have? John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-23 Thread Ted Bryant
] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing RIchard, There are no long delays inherent in the K3/K3S transmit timing. It should be ready to transmit RF within 5 to 15 ms of PTT assertion, depending on mode and other factors. My apologies; I have not been closely reading this thread. I’ll come up to speed

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread RIchard Williams via Elecraft
Richard, I had a similar problem with the K3S not stopping transmit.  Finally fixed it by changing the stop bit in the radio settings from two to one. Dick, K8ZTT  On Thursday, February 22, 2018, 9:32:59 PM MST, Richard wrote: Maybe I’m missing something, but the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread Wayne Burdick
RIchard, There are no long delays inherent in the K3/K3S transmit timing. It should be ready to transmit RF within 5 to 15 ms of PTT assertion, depending on mode and other factors. My apologies; I have not been closely reading this thread. I’ll come up to speed and get back to you. If this

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread Richard
Maybe I’m missing something, but the “timing” problem with which some of us are fighting has nothing to do with computer clock accuracy. Even if the computer time is off, it’s the only time reference WSJT-X has to work with. So the instant the computer tells the software it’s time to transmit,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread James Bennett
Guys - sorry for the delay in responding to your posts - places to go, things to do, all overriding ham radio for a couple hours. It was suggested that I see if I’m out of sync on my computer clock(s). Well, here is the strange thing: the iMac that the K3 is connected to consistently is giving

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
If you are seeing a majority of the decodes in which the DT is less than <0.5 seconds, your computer clock is close enough for reliable contacts and decodes.   The software should handle decodes with a DT up to 2.0 seconds, but in many cases this depends largely {very largely in fact} on

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread Nr4c
Check the clocks on the computers. Sync them to a time server. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Feb 22, 2018, at 6:30 PM, James Bennett wrote: > > Hi Dennis - how you doing? > > Sorry I neglected to provide enough info - was in a hurry to post that before > I had to run

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Within WSJT-X there is a slight delay between the time the PTT command is issues and the start of DATA audio.   The value is established via the F2 setup menu, Advanced page, under Miscellaneous.    Additionally if you are using VOX control via the radio, this delay of audio is very apparent.  

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread Jim - N4ST
: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Bennett Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 18:30 To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing Hi Dennis - how you doing? Sorry I neg

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread James Bennett
Hi Dennis - how you doing? Sorry I neglected to provide enough info - was in a hurry to post that before I had to run out to pickup kids at school (close to your dads QTH!) I am using VOX on both rigs. Each rig has it’s own computer and separate, but identical external USB sound cards. The K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 And WSJT-X FT8 Timing

2018-02-22 Thread Dennis Moore
How are you keying the K3, VOX or PTT? It's not clear from the email, are the K3 and KX3  on separate computers on just different sound cards in the same computer? 73, Dennis NJ6G On 2/22/2018 14:22, James Bennett wrote: Got a question about using my K3 with WSJT-X 1.8.0 with FT8 I